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Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist tells Bawumia

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Comment: DONT LISTEN TO THIS TRABALICTIC LECTURER

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KOFI MENSAH
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2016-10-10 11:08:15
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Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist tells B

PEOPLE DONT LISTEN TO THIS TRIBALISTIC LECTURER. AT THE LECTURE ROOM, HE SPEAKS MORE EWE THAN ENGLISH

YOU WILL BE SURPRISED TO LEARN THAT THIS MAN GIVES SPECIAL PENS WITH DIFFERENT INK TO HIS EWE STUDENTS. WHEN HE IS MARKING SCRIPTS, HE ONLY LOOKS AT THE SPECIAL INK AND DOES HIS OWN THING

THIS LECTURER HAS NO INTEGRITY AND NOBODY SHOULD MIND HIM. TO HIM, NO EWE SHOULD GET BELOW GRADE B IN HIS SUBJECT. THIS MAN CANNOT BE TRUSTED

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PRINCE KWASI ADADE (OFIE P33) on Oct 10, 2016 11:10
NDC, GO BACK TO COLLEGE & COME AGAIN!!!!DR BAWUMIA: _____-----International rating agency Moody’s has not upgraded Ghana’s sovereign credit rating contrary to assertions by the Mahama administration to that effect, the vice-presidential nominee of the main oppo ...

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PRINCE KWASI ADADE (OFIE P33) on Oct 10, 2016 11:12
THE PROPHET HAS THROWN ANOTHER STONE!!!!DR BAWUMIA: ******_____-----International rating agency Moody’s has not upgraded Ghana’s sovereign credit rating contrary to assertions by the Mahama administration to that effect, the vice-presidential nominee of the mai ...

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OLD SOLDIER on Oct 10, 2016 10:15
NPP - PARTY OF CURSES AND BRIBERYAuthor: OGIMAN Comment to: NPP’s Manhyia North poll was ‘bribery and curses He said "the NPP had lost its identity and had now become the preserve of the rich, who were actively buying votes to win internal elections. ...

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Dunno British on Oct 10, 2016 13:45
Re: THE PROPHET HAS THROWN ANOTHER STONE!!!!How many votes will this attract for Nana . ? Npp must save money for 2020 elections

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kk on Oct 10, 2016 11:14
Upgrade/If Grade B- id 55 - 59 % and grade 55% is a negative outlook. We can say grade 58% is a positive outlook. But the grade is Still B-. The Outlook does NOT change the Grade. The Grade is Still B-. This is how I understand it. ...

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Stewart Tano on Oct 10, 2016 11:31
UpgradeIts appears a lot of ordinary Ghanaians are confused about the difference between negative outlook (B-) and stable outlook(B). In American system, B is an upgrade of B-. besides, B- and B are not in the same range as KK depi ...

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Nii Akwei on Oct 10, 2016 14:37
Re: Upgrade/What kind of analysis is that @kk

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Gordon on Oct 10, 2016 13:13
Says a bigotSays a tribalis in a lecturer

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Amahama on Oct 10, 2016 13:31
What economistThis cheap economist do not know the difference between rating upgrade and an outlook change. Bawumia is absolutely right. The university should review the qualification of this economist

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kululu on Oct 10, 2016 13:08
Frightening indeed to see Dr b4 his namequalifications may equate to how learned one is, but very misleading as to how intelligent one may be.Or is it that the stomach sometimes make some learned people not think properly? This Dr must read kk's comment or his stud ...

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Nii Akwei on Oct 10, 2016 14:41
Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - EconoMasa, stop exposing your ignorance hereb@ amahama

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Nana Kuffuor, Abeka on Oct 10, 2016 14:38
Bawumia you don't know whooooEvery country on this planet respects their presidency. Since these MATI MIHU elements tasted power for 8 years, they have reduced the presidency into a common denominator. Somebody like that liar Bawumia who went to a defunc ...

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OLD SOLDIER on Oct 10, 2016 10:13
NPP WANTS MOODY'S DOWNGRADEWe in the NPP are like Rush Limbaugh, we want to make sure NDC doesn't succeed just like we did to OBAMA in his eight in office

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True Talk on Oct 10, 2016 10:23
Old Soldier -Time To RetireWhat a load of rubbish! Limbaugh, Obama. Please go to your village and sit under a tree smoking your broken pipe. If you live in Ghana you do not need Mooody's to tell you the state of our economy. For the records you are not ...

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Peace on Oct 10, 2016 10:25
Re: NPP WANTS MOODY'S DOWNGRADEWho is and where from this 'kwashiorkor-like'looking Ghatsi too?Looking at the name and his face, he has the semblance of NDC 'fire spitters' like efo Koku Anyidaho,Asiedu Nketia, Fifi Kwetey and Kofi Kotokoli Adamu aka Adam ...

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HAHAHA,ONE EWE ONE SOMETHING. on Oct 10, 2016 10:48
ANOTHER STUPID TROKOSIIS HE NOT TOGO TROKOSI WHO ALWAYS WANT THE DOWN FALL OF GHANA.WHAT IS UPGRADED,FOOLISH IDIOTIC BEAST.THE EVIDENCE ON THE GROUND SHOWS THIS KNOW NOTHING FOOL PARADING AROUND AS A LEADER HAS NO BRAIN TO RULE THIS COUNTRY.THE CO ...

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Goodies on Oct 10, 2016 16:44
B- is B- and can never be an upgradeGet Moody Credit Rating Scale Info. Your Search & Social Results Now. Enhanced results · What does the web say? Agency Rating Outlook Moody's B3 Negative S&P B- Stable Moody's B2 Negative Fitch B Negative 18 m ...

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Agya koo on Oct 10, 2016 10:24
OpaanaDon't mind Opaana jnr, he is paid to tell lies to Ghanaians

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Lukeman on Oct 10, 2016 10:25
Upgrade indeedJohn Gasti, do you feel your so called upgrade in your pocket?..."Bought" lecturer.

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Ghanani on Oct 10, 2016 11:09
re;upgrade indeedDid you feel anything in your pocket when kuffuor was in power?Shame to you NPP members,supporters and followers.You do not want anything good for Ghana.You are always casting the nation in a bad light.

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Iddris Yussif on Oct 12, 2016 18:51
Re: Upgrade indeedLudicrous,wat r u talking abt? Upon all the GDP growth npp is priding themselve with during their tenure. How many Ghanaians feel it in their pocket?At a point paying of salary was a problem. All they can do was to sell our p ...

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David on Oct 10, 2016 11:25
BAWUMIA IS A CRIMINALBawumia is behaving like he is the only educated person in this country. He has woefully forgotton that, not all Ghanaians are the illiterate Ashantis that he can decieve. Honestly, this guy is very pompous and a big liar W ...

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yash kugmoor17 on Oct 10, 2016 12:23
mahama is mentally disabledDon't listen to bawumia....if you don't wanna be like a typical ndc.. like... don't read don't understand. .attitude, Then u can also go on moody's website and read it for yourself..dec7 kick dramani in the balls...60yr old ...

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KWESI BANSON on Oct 10, 2016 14:14
BAD OMENNDC should not easte their time attacking Bawumia. Instead they djould be paying more attention to the CENTRAL & WESTERN REGIONS. Believe me, they will lose heavily in these 2 regions if they are not careful. there is an ill ...

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Joe on Oct 10, 2016 10:39
Country is a mess. Ghana is a jokeThere is no leadership. There is no control. There is no plan. Spite of being a card bearing NDC member, I will never vote NDC again. This government has been the biggest disappointment. My 30 year business in now on it's kne ...

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kisa on Oct 10, 2016 19:10
Liar Joe! You idiot doomsday platter!it's not true Ghana is in a mess. come on! who is starving there? where is the crises? I think the only crises is in NPP and Nana party!

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Van Pee on Oct 10, 2016 10:41
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telBAWUMIAH IS NOT TRIED AND TESTED. HE IS JUST A PATAPAA POLITICIAN

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kk on Oct 10, 2016 11:10
More than your Failed Mahama ?Who doesn't want to accept his failure?

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economic prophet on Oct 10, 2016 13:28
moodys ratingIgnorance is the bain of failure..go and check the track record of bawumia before u make such degrading comment...lets be dispassionate in our ultrances rather than making unsubstantiated comment

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TK on Oct 10, 2016 11:48
NPP never wish Ghana positive.NPP want Ghana's down fall so that they can take advantage of that but they forget that if you wish somebody bad,bad befalls you.If you wish somebody good,good too befalls you.

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HAHAHA,ONE EWE ONE SOMETHING. on Oct 10, 2016 10:50
ONE EWE ONE CATMAHAMAH HAS PROMISED THEM ONE EWE ONE CAT SO NO WONDER.

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EL on Oct 10, 2016 15:40
Re: ONE EWE ONE CAThas Nana Ado promised you one bush man one monkey or bush rat excreter also?

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JK on Oct 10, 2016 10:51
BAWUMIA NEVER STOP LAIRS.PROPHET OF LIES BAWUMIA.

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Damba Amusey, Tamale on Oct 10, 2016 10:51
B3 OUTLOOK VERY BADThe economy is in shambles

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Bongoman on Oct 10, 2016 11:52
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telDr.Bawumia,please come again.Stop destroying the little credibility you have for grandpa,'David'The Gas have a saying which literally translates to 'The child that will die does not know Korle Bu'come December 7 you will unde ...

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... on Oct 10, 2016 10:59
another foolish ewe. no wonderthey are ndc due to their inward-looking attitudes, tribalism and foolishness. these people never reason. the most stupid group of people in Ghana are ewes. inspite of hardships ewes will still vote ndc.

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Ghanawatch on Oct 10, 2016 11:04
NPP WANTS NOTHING GOOD FOR GHANAThe NPP in opposition wants nothing good for the country and when in government they steal what belongs to the people of Ghana.It is a tradition they have inherited from Busia and J.B.Danquah.They are subversionists ane natio ...

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KOFI MENSAH on Oct 10, 2016 11:08
DONT LISTEN TO THIS TRABALICTIC LECTURER

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lrn on Oct 10, 2016 11:10
ewes are simply moronsbecause of ndc and hatred for non-ewe tribes we have such fools talking trash. ewes are a big problem in Ghana. what kind of idiotic human beings are these?

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Kanawu on Oct 10, 2016 12:11
The clueless Mahama is an embarrassmentMahama and his NDC administration don't read. They are embarrassment.

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Yaw on Oct 10, 2016 12:12
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telNpp is wishing doom on Ghanaians

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Kalim Baaba on Oct 10, 2016 11:12
and such an EWE fool at a Ghanaian UNI?This idiot must be made to retire immediately, has NOTHING IN KNOPF!

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TAA on Oct 10, 2016 11:14
NO SENSIBLE PERSON IN NPPALL OF A SUDDEN EVERYONE IN NPP HAS BECOME AN ILLITERATE AND BAWUMIA THE ONLY IGNORANT LITERATE? EVEN IF HE SAID NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE ARE THE SAME THEN THESE ILLITERATE CHEER HIM UP. ONLY FOOLS BEHAVE LIKE THESE PEOPLE. KEN ...

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Kanawu on Oct 10, 2016 12:14
Another ewe nonentitySo called economist. Go back and read exactly what Moody's put out there about Ghana.... stupid trokosi Togolese man..

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abba on Oct 10, 2016 11:15
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telMAHAMA IS A CRIMINAL FOR LOOTING THE COFFERS OF THE NATION TO LEAVE HUGE DEBT STOCK ON THE NECK OF GHANAIANS. HE IS A DISGRACE TO THE JUNE 4TH 1979 REVOLUTION. NOW THE BLOOD OF GEN.ACHAMPONG AND THE OTHER VICTIMS ARE INNOCEN ...

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Dr Robert K Glah on Oct 10, 2016 11:20
NDC rejoice fo debt sustainabilityNDC rejoice fo debt sustainability under the law over Dr Bawumia political arrogance. That sustainability is the point which votes for victory for NDC. Let us dream in the national interest not in our stomach interest alo ...

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GHANAVIA on Oct 10, 2016 11:48
Re: NDC rejoice fo debt sustainabilityKokompe certified dr. Glah continue tickling yourself with baseless thoughts and ideas.

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A Buahin on Oct 11, 2016 11:27
Re: NDC rejoice fo debt sustainabilityFor umpteenth time Dr Bawumia has been right

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Ras on Oct 10, 2016 12:23
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telPlease Gatsi concentrate on clearing the mess around your PhD first.

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God son on Oct 10, 2016 12:28
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telu need to read more ndc

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Shipah on Oct 10, 2016 12:31
Kwasia kwaQuestion is has it changed from B- .....that's d question who gives a fuck about the outlook...that's a prediction its not happened yet.. So how did u study ur economics.. If I tell u our debt is 4 billion and its projected ...

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Stewart Tano on Oct 10, 2016 11:38
Yes UpgradeYes it has change from B- to B.In American system, B is an upgrade of B-. Don't wish economic curse for your country because of politics. it's sad.

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economic prophet on Oct 10, 2016 13:34
moodys ratingThe rating has not change frm B- to B..it is still at B- with a stable outlook frm a negative outlook

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Kanawu on Oct 10, 2016 13:26
Another stupid illitrateNo, it has not changed to a B. it is B3, which is Moody's language, same as B- which is used by Fitch and Standard and Poors. Google for yourself. Stupid idiot...

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aziz on Oct 10, 2016 11:31
DEAD GOAT MAHAMA IS CORRUPTwhat is this pepenii fake Dr talking about? Doing the bidding of his incompetent mahama??? Ghanaians are wide awake now oo fool nDC PEOPLE

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Ahmed Hardi Deeni on Oct 10, 2016 12:32
pepeni economies disagreed Bawumiashut up pepeni economies what do u know...???? who are u to challenge Alhaji.....????? u are the reasons students are now failing like that

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Jim on Oct 10, 2016 11:47
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telFools screaming we need change not knowing what awaits them. Common Kalypo turns deal in Ghana politics as if there are no other made in Ghana produce. No wonder there are a lot of quack pastors all over the country foolin ...

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Dessie on Oct 10, 2016 14:05
Nerds never changeNerd always nerds.They never change

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Kwasi on Oct 10, 2016 11:48
https://grantstandblog.wordpress.com/https://grantstandblog.wordpress.com/2016/10/09/the-kalypo-craze-result-of-propaganda-gone-wrong/

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BOLE BAMBOI on Oct 10, 2016 11:55
INCOMPETENT MAHAMA ADMINISTRATIONIncompetent Mahama Administration.

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Jdm on Oct 10, 2016 13:09
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telTry to upgrade yourself and stop behaving Mr know it all at cape vars, are you happy that Ghanaians are suffering under your shameless ndc government?

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ama gh on Oct 10, 2016 13:12
Work on ur fake phdissues abt d credibility of ur phd is nt yet settled. mind ur business

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K Mensah on Oct 10, 2016 13:17
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telIt is very sad that Mahama and his gang of thieves in the NDC do not understand simple English yet they want to rule Ghana forever. Ghanaians should never allow this to happen.

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VICTOR BAIDOO, SOUTH AFRICA on Oct 10, 2016 13:19
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telDR JOHN GATSI, WHAT HAS THE NDC AND PRESIDENT JOHN DRAMANI MAHAMA GOT TO CELEBRATE ABOUT? YOU AND JOHN MAHAMA AND BAWUMIA ARE CONFUSING MAJORITY OF US GHANAIANS WITH POOR KNOWLEDGE IN ECONOMICS. LET'S MAKE THE MOODY RATING C ...

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XNORTH on Oct 10, 2016 12:22
HahahahaHahahaha I expected this man to say so so I am not worried. He is so funny and think he knows it all.

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Africa on Oct 10, 2016 13:23
oh Dr Gatsi!oh Dr Gatsi!

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Odikro on Oct 10, 2016 12:26
B3 IS JUNK; THAT'S ALLWhere did this idiot do his economics? B3 rating is junk and terrible, period.

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sa ad on Oct 10, 2016 13:39
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telDr. Bawumia said it is not a new grade and that is factually true! The grade may be positive outlook, negative outlook or stable! We moved from moved from negative outlook to stable but we remained as B3

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Ernest on Oct 10, 2016 13:46
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telIf NPP doesn't win this election, the party might just break up. The desperation with mischievousnes is reaching crescendo. One thing for sure, we'd all be cautious about them especially if you're not 18yrs before the 2000 el ...

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Dessie on Oct 10, 2016 14:02
A walking misinformation machineBawumia is a " walking misinformation machine"

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FEMI ALIKOTO on Oct 10, 2016 13:02
tweaaaaaaaaAnd this guy too is a gainfully-employed university lecturer? Only in ghana.

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FACT on Oct 10, 2016 13:22
NO IT IS NOT.REVISE YOUR NITES&BE DON'TIf this guy is a Lecturer at Cape Coast and I was a student I would skip his lectures. A Lecturer who claims he is an economist and haven't the faintest idea between positive and negative grading with respect to credit ratin ...

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TOM MBOYA on Oct 10, 2016 16:46
Re: NO IT IS NOT.REVISE YOUR NITES&BE DON'TFact this man got his doctorate from one of those unaccredited institutions in the news lately. Swiss Management Centre, Daysprings University and another from Nicaragua. I call them Universities under trees. Why can't people ...

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Kanawu on Oct 10, 2016 13:23
stupid idiot ewe nonethityYou call your self a PhD holder and economist? from where? soviet Union? as a lecturer you can easily google what B3/B- rating means. they are the same. B3 is used by Moody's and B- is used by Fitch and Standard and Poors. Kw ...

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TOM MBOYA on Oct 10, 2016 14:26
GATSI'S DEGREE IS FROM MALLATA MARKETIS THIS NOT THE SAME DR. GATSI WHOSE DOCTORATE DEGREE IS FROM ONE THOSE UNACCREDITED INSTITUTIONS? WHAT DOES HE KNOW? SOME MUSHROOM "UNIVERSITY UNDER TREE" CALLED SWISS MANAGEMENT CENTRE IS SELLING PhD's FOR TWO A PENNY AND T ...

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Quame Gyan on Oct 10, 2016 15:08
Look @ demNever in my entire life have i met a dishonest Muslim like Dr. Bawumia. And those who are more enlightened than him will just follow him like day old chicks following their mother. What a shame!!!!!!!!

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Jakes on Oct 10, 2016 15:10
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telNobody will give you a minister so stop fooling yourself and continue to pollute your students even ordinary man on the street knows that economy is in a deplorable state.

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NDC campaigner on Oct 10, 2016 14:15
John is not an economistJohn is a financial analyst and not an economist. He has never done economics before. However, as a lecturer in finance, I expect him to understand the sovereign credit rating. You are upgrade if you move up a grade or down g ...

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T'pau on Oct 11, 2016 06:15
Re: John is not an economistExcellent! The best explanation so far.

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Asebu on Oct 10, 2016 14:24
GATSI with Fake PhD.Gatsi has a fake PhD from the Swiss Management School that awards fake degrees.

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Kwaku Broni on Oct 10, 2016 15:26
NDC Rate Upgrade IdiocyFolks Moody's outlook comment of negative to stable on B- or B3 credit rating is not a " Rate upgrade". So Dr. Bawumia is correct. The truth of the matter is the level of interest rate international investors (Banks/others) c ...

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ALLOTEY on Oct 10, 2016 14:34
Medical meaning of stable.I will like to add to Kwaku`s insightful comment. My contribution is this if you medical doctor tells you your condition is stable it does not mean you have been cured.

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T'pau on Oct 11, 2016 06:23
Re: Medical meaning of stable.Allotey, thanks for the analogy. May I ask, if your doctor tells you, your condition has changed from 'Critical' to 'Critical but Stable' will you be happier or not?

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Kofi Kakra on Oct 10, 2016 15:37
I blame the media!All these back and forth must be laid AT the doorsteps of the media! We aren't serious! How difficult is it to verify this from Moody's?...mtcheewwww

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mahama paper on Oct 10, 2016 14:37
liarsBawumia is right,,check this is link

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Kofi Kakra on Oct 10, 2016 15:38
media must sit up!All these back and forth must be laid AT the doorsteps of the media! We aren't serious! How difficult is it to verify this from Moody's?...mtcheewwww Better still, call for a debate on this! This is a verifiable fact!

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Capito on Oct 10, 2016 15:38
Go For A Academic InductionAcademic Bafoon.Wake Up Mr Latter Day Economist

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mahama paper on Oct 10, 2016 14:39
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telBawumia is right..check this link https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/apr/30/credit-ratings-country-fitch-moodys-standard

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Arthur-Mills on Oct 10, 2016 15:31
Shameful Intellectual Dishonest Gatsi !!Am really shocked Gatsi claims current Moody's outlook change is an upgrade. This is shocking coming from someone who call himself an economist. I will call this intellectual dishonesty on the part of Gatsi if not part of NDC ...

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Kofi abotsi on Oct 10, 2016 16:48
gatsi has fake phdis this not the guy called gatsi who has phd from unaccredited institutions? God forbid, this man is no economist!!

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KOGYAM58 on Oct 10, 2016 16:48
READ THE IMF DIRECTOR'S COMMENT ATTACHED"The International Monetary Fund’s (IMF) director for Africa has indicated that the favourable economic growth for the country from next year will be based on sticking to some critical fiscal policies. Abebe Aemro Selas ...

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zak on Oct 10, 2016 19:05
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telsomeone should stop foolish lecturer from lecturing before he poison his students with bad economy grades. when big brains are talking idiots like him must shut up

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Shaba on Oct 10, 2016 19:25
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telBawumia's shame. So this so-called Npp brain 'hub' doesn't know that when negative becomes positive; it's an upgrade. Sad indeed. Ghanaians must be weary of npp.

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zak on Oct 11, 2016 08:23
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telit's childish to believe that nonsense by that good for nothing lecturer who is poisoning his students.

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The Truth on Oct 10, 2016 19:10
Bawumia was rightThere is a difference with outlook rating and the rating itself. Ghana is still rated B3 but the outlook was revised from negative to stable. That fake economist called Gatsi needs to go and learn. No wonder he has a question ...

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Wilfred Odame on Oct 10, 2016 20:11
Mediocre lecturersOnly few lecturers at this university can be said to be good the rest are just rubbish lecturers chopping students money and other things

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Kwame Boateng on Oct 10, 2016 20:53
Is this really worth celebratingIf one looks at the conditions and suffering by Ghanaians is this so called upgrade or change of outlook worth celebrating? No wonder this government has been labeled as mediocrity at all times.

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K.k on Oct 10, 2016 22:54
Fake SMC Cheap Dr Again?Are you sure fake SMC Dr?

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Richard on Oct 11, 2016 00:18
PhD from unaccredited UniversityIs this not the Dr who got his PhD from an Unaccredited University and was exposed with the IGP and Gifty Anti? If so how can he challenge Dr Bawummia? People are not serious in this country. He is seeking attention, he shoul ...

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Kweku on Oct 11, 2016 05:33
WAKE UP PEOPLESometimes I wonder why people can be so myopic in their thinking because of politics. This is basic English. Are u people telling me that B- and B are the same? If u can't see the difference in the two then I feel very sad f ...

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A Buahin on Oct 11, 2016 10:42
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telIf our son is last in class 6 and he is demoted because of poor performance to class 4 where he comes 10th we should congratulate ourselves? Oh NDC!

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jomens on Oct 11, 2016 14:40
Re: Moody's rating is 'an upgrade' - Economist telBawumia can't come to power with lies; Dr. Know nothing Bawumia, have you proved your 76, 000 Togolese on Ghana's voter register. Are you honest at all? We cant entrust our country to you and your cohorts . You are campaigni ...

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change is coming on Oct 12, 2016 18:22
#mahamamustgoit was expected. this man with his background. not surprising. keep tickling yourself and laugh and continue behaving like ostriches

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Game changer on Oct 13, 2016 00:02
Stomach EconomicsJohn Gatsi should sometimes hid his political colours when analysing issues of national importance if not he will soon lose his respect as an economics

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sam Y... on Oct 13, 2016 13:34
ShameBut ur so called Bawumia analyses things without political colours abiii.... Aaaaah u guys are very intolerant of divergent views

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