Mr. Ahoofe, for the first time in history, I actually agree with you 100%. Yes, what shop owners did was downright degrading & must be fined, but the lady thieves deserve absolutely nothing for their bad conduct. This ministe ... read full comment
Mr. Ahoofe, for the first time in history, I actually agree with you 100%. Yes, what shop owners did was downright degrading & must be fined, but the lady thieves deserve absolutely nothing for their bad conduct. This minister is proving to be so liberal with her thinking, the next chapter for her is to advocate for gay rights.
Tacitus Of Rome 10 years ago
You have not heard of human rights, have you?
Now ask yourselve whether these guys humiliated in public glare can sue or not?
You have not heard of human rights, have you?
Now ask yourselve whether these guys humiliated in public glare can sue or not?
SARPONG 10 years ago
Ok. what about the human rights of armed robbers, gays, murderers, rapists and other criminals? Pickpockets are get lynched for stealing less and nobody talk about their human rights. Men and boys who shop lift underwears get ... read full comment
Ok. what about the human rights of armed robbers, gays, murderers, rapists and other criminals? Pickpockets are get lynched for stealing less and nobody talk about their human rights. Men and boys who shop lift underwears get lynched but these young ladies got off easily for being made to crawl and our ears are being burned about their human rights.
The moment you commit a crime, you lose some of your rights as a human being.
Do you know homosexuality is not a crime but when those who practice engage in homosexual activity are not being allowed to claim their human rights?
GHFUO, be serious & change ur MENtali 10 years ago
GET RID OF UR ARCHAIC MENTALITY. JUST BCOS THE PUBLIC HAVE SUCCEEDED IN NABBING ATAA AYI. DOSENT MEAN THEY HVE THE RIGHT TO LYNCH HIM EITHER. THERE ARE RIGHT AND WRONG THINGS TO DO IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES. U SEE, WEN I SAY MOST ... read full comment
GET RID OF UR ARCHAIC MENTALITY. JUST BCOS THE PUBLIC HAVE SUCCEEDED IN NABBING ATAA AYI. DOSENT MEAN THEY HVE THE RIGHT TO LYNCH HIM EITHER. THERE ARE RIGHT AND WRONG THINGS TO DO IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES. U SEE, WEN I SAY MOST GHPPL ARE PRIMITIVE. THIS IS WAT I MEAN. RATHER THAN HANDING AYI TO THE POLICE. U WANT TO PUT TYRE AROUND HIS NECK N SET HIM ABLAZE LIKE CHINCHINGA...MUAHAHAAAA..GHFUO, TOO WIKID. EVEN STRAY DOGS HVE RIGHTS BUT IF AFRICA...HMMMM
SARPONG 10 years ago
Illiterate fool, don't blame your illiteracy on me ok? If you don't understand English, find a forum where the medium of communication is your mother's tongue, you dumbass with an IQ of a rotten egg.
Where did I say it is ... read full comment
Illiterate fool, don't blame your illiteracy on me ok? If you don't understand English, find a forum where the medium of communication is your mother's tongue, you dumbass with an IQ of a rotten egg.
Where did I say it is right to lynch anybody. Sad a jss dropout who cannot exercise your brains can call anybody primitive when you behave like a 14th century cavemen, you stupid oedipus complexed douchebag.
Atugabiig 10 years ago
OKOAMPAH, ASSUMING A BLACK KID FROM THE BRONX IS CAUGHT SHOPLIFTING AT MACY'S, BLOOMINGDALE'S OR TIFFANY AND TREATED LIKE THESE GIRLS; WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?
OKOAMPAH, ASSUMING A BLACK KID FROM THE BRONX IS CAUGHT SHOPLIFTING AT MACY'S, BLOOMINGDALE'S OR TIFFANY AND TREATED LIKE THESE GIRLS; WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?
GHFUO, be serious & change ur MENtali 10 years ago
AS COMPENSATION N BAN THEM FROM COMING TO THE STORE. MR PRICE U SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN HUMILIATE THIEVES IN UR STORE. IF A WISE MAN STOOPS AS LOW AS THE FOOL. WAT WILL OTHERS SAY ABOUT THE WISE PERSON? THAT HE IS JUST AS DUM ... read full comment
AS COMPENSATION N BAN THEM FROM COMING TO THE STORE. MR PRICE U SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN HUMILIATE THIEVES IN UR STORE. IF A WISE MAN STOOPS AS LOW AS THE FOOL. WAT WILL OTHERS SAY ABOUT THE WISE PERSON? THAT HE IS JUST AS DUMB...THIS IS THE PREMISE....NEXTTIME, GET THEM TO PAY FOR THE STOLEN ITEMS. IF THEY CANT, DETAIN THEM N CALL THE POLICE.
Kimora 10 years ago
The only compensation these three thieves deserve is an apology for being humiliated. They don't deserve monetary compensation.
The only compensation these three thieves deserve is an apology for being humiliated. They don't deserve monetary compensation.
Yaw Gyasi 10 years ago
"AS COMPENSATION N BAN THEM FROM COMING TO THE STORE"
What are you trying to say? You need to learn how to write proper English here. At least write understandable English.
"AS COMPENSATION N BAN THEM FROM COMING TO THE STORE"
What are you trying to say? You need to learn how to write proper English here. At least write understandable English.
Tacitus Of Rome 10 years ago
In the Akan-language, it is even more poignant and mellifluous; and it runs as follows: "Nea ade wono na odi" - to wit, "It is the owner who consumes/ appropriates." In other words, the three young women shoplifters appear no ... read full comment
In the Akan-language, it is even more poignant and mellifluous; and it runs as follows: "Nea ade wono na odi" - to wit, "It is the owner who consumes/ appropriates." In other words, the three young women shoplifters appear not to have had any sound moral upbringing. And it is on this abject parental dereliction of duty which Nana Oye Lithur ought to focus her sedulous attention. In sum, the owners and operators of the Mr. Price garment shop, so mischievously targeted by the three women thieves, were darn righteous in their indignation. What they erred on was the rather visceral, or even base, decision to order the three petty thieves to crawl on all fours in full view of shoppers.
The Gender, Children and Social Protection Minister is right in calling for a modicum of sanctions against the branch of the Mr. Price shop where the shoplifting incident occurred. But under absolutely no circumstances ought the culprits be compensated for getting caught in the criminal act of shoplifting. It doesn't make sense, for shoplifting costs shoppers millions of cedis in passed-on added costs every year. Also, it is almost as if these petty thieves are being celebrated for their patent criminality and untenable anti-social conduct.
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I think your whole two paragraphs above missed to capture the import of what the implications were in Nana Oye Lithurs award system for the shop-lifters.
Yours was a traditional or culturally drawn deduction but on legally procedural score, shoplifters will have to face the law which certainly they should have been allowed the chance in a democratic country to defend theirselves.
Since they were denied any fair trial and went through mob justice and subjecting them though thieves to public humiliation in the present of police, their human right was violated so they can sue to be awarded in that regard. I think this is what the minister was trying to drive at.
But someone who claims to be a professor could hardly make sound logical deduction rather than buying into some backward shibboleth as 'nea ade wono na odi' sucks.
P. Akyeampong 10 years ago
You are right. Ahoofe's article is a knee-jerk reaction to Nana Oye Lithur's statements. The management of the store should have handed the girls over to the Police for further processing. Not even armed robbers are subjected ... read full comment
You are right. Ahoofe's article is a knee-jerk reaction to Nana Oye Lithur's statements. The management of the store should have handed the girls over to the Police for further processing. Not even armed robbers are subjected to this humiliating ordeal.
Tacitus Of Rome 10 years ago
Oooh my brother, in this 21st centuary and a country said to have reached lower middle class has yet to show to the world that we have proper justice procedures and they effectively work.
In the presence of Police, these g ... read full comment
Oooh my brother, in this 21st centuary and a country said to have reached lower middle class has yet to show to the world that we have proper justice procedures and they effectively work.
In the presence of Police, these girls were subjected to such humiliation violating their human rights. Thieves too have human rights and here we are a whole professor making a mockery of it and attempting to fling mud at the characters of certain individuals because of hate.
Ooh Some asylum seeking professors!!
backfire 10 years ago
Oh Tacitus of Rome, you are making fool of your self. you were talking sense in all your comments but ended with a foolish comment. are you trying to tell us that asylum seekers cannot be good professors? check your words nex ... read full comment
Oh Tacitus of Rome, you are making fool of your self. you were talking sense in all your comments but ended with a foolish comment. are you trying to tell us that asylum seekers cannot be good professors? check your words next time. shallow minded thing like you.
grace 10 years ago
If you don't want humiliation, don't go stealing!!!
If you don't want humiliation, don't go stealing!!!
Mansah 10 years ago
Okoampa has proved to me by this article that you don't understand what people are tyring to say. The shop cannot take the law into its own hands and punish wrongdoers. Cannot is a civilized country.
Okoampa has proved to me by this article that you don't understand what people are tyring to say. The shop cannot take the law into its own hands and punish wrongdoers. Cannot is a civilized country.
Connie 10 years ago
Mansah, did you read the article before commenting? This article clearly condemned the store owners & suggested a fined be impose on them & not compensate the three women for stealing.
Mansah, did you read the article before commenting? This article clearly condemned the store owners & suggested a fined be impose on them & not compensate the three women for stealing.
P. Akyeampong 10 years ago
There is a distinction between committing a crime and having one's human rights violated. In this instance, regardless of the shoplifting charge, the girls can sue for the latter.
Committing a crime does not necessarily me ... read full comment
There is a distinction between committing a crime and having one's human rights violated. In this instance, regardless of the shoplifting charge, the girls can sue for the latter.
Committing a crime does not necessarily mean that one is automatically stripped of one's fundamental human rights. Consequently, even if the girls are charged for shoplifting, they can still sue the store for violating their rights as humans.
If we want the rule of law to work in Ghana, then we must discourage such embarrassing acts before lawlessness becomes the order of the day.
SARPONG 10 years ago
You are really sick. Now I understand what a Policeman told me about shooting to kill and not to disarm. He said you are more likely to get sued and find guilty if you hurt a criminal than if you kill the person.
Now the h ... read full comment
You are really sick. Now I understand what a Policeman told me about shooting to kill and not to disarm. He said you are more likely to get sued and find guilty if you hurt a criminal than if you kill the person.
Now the human rights of these thieves have assumed importancy. If they have been lynched by a mob for shoplifting, nobody would have been talking about their human rights.
A lot of 18 and young men get killed by mob for pick pocketing and you don't hear about their human rights or women thieves are the only breed deserving human rights.
This nonsense from officialdom encourage lynching. Is making a thief crawl worse than beaten to death or beaten to pulp? What about the human rights of the shop owner for losing his merchandise to the "Angels" of thieves?
P. Akyeampong 10 years ago
Sarpong, you can make your point without resorting to insults which has unfortunately been your trademark on Ghanaweb over the years.
For someone who has lived in America for so many years, I find your comment on human rig ... read full comment
Sarpong, you can make your point without resorting to insults which has unfortunately been your trademark on Ghanaweb over the years.
For someone who has lived in America for so many years, I find your comment on human rights disturbing, to say the least. Be advised that there is no room for "instant justice" in any civilized society.
The fact that we've had incidences of lynching by mobs does not justify anything. It's called lawlessness and must not be encouraged.
Bear in mind that I never suggested that the young women should not be punished. Of course, they deserve to be punished - but stealing underwear does not make them any less human than anybody.
Don't forget that there is no need for insults and name-calling if you disagree with somebody.
SARPONG 10 years ago
Sorry Mr Acheampong, I got carried away with all the people calling for human rights. I am a proponent of human rights and it is just the hypocrisy of all these people calling for the human rights of these thieves but will ca ... read full comment
Sorry Mr Acheampong, I got carried away with all the people calling for human rights. I am a proponent of human rights and it is just the hypocrisy of all these people calling for the human rights of these thieves but will call for lynching of homosexuals who have not committed any crime according to the laws of Ghana.
"Be advised that there is no room for "instant justice" in any civilized society."
I am not a proponent of instant justice and have written many articles against that because a friend of mine almost got lynched in the 80's because he had bough a shoe that had been stolen not knowing it was a stolen good and almost lost his life for a mere shoe so I don't believe in instant or jungle justice. What irks me is the sex discrimination here.
Mr Acheampong, do you think if these ladies were men instead of females, this incident would have got traction in the ink fraternity as it is getting now? That is my beef, why Ghanaians have now realised instant justice is against human rights whilst the same people who are making the loudest noise are the homophobics who want instant justce for homosexuals and lesbians.
As a democratic country, let's stop discriminating against others and apply the law equally because the moment you start discriminating against other group of people because you do not ascribe to their lifestyle, then you lose your fairness in applying the law and you make a mockery of the human rights decree.
Nobody can be a proponent of human rights when you discriminate against the rights of others because you disagree with them. Human rights should be applied to all without any form of discrimination.
SARPONG 10 years ago
"For someone who has lived in America for so many years, I find your comment on human rights disturbing, to say the least."
Mr Acheampong, I have been speaking for rights of all people when human rights was not in vogue am ... read full comment
"For someone who has lived in America for so many years, I find your comment on human rights disturbing, to say the least."
Mr Acheampong, I have been speaking for rights of all people when human rights was not in vogue amongst some of you. No later Saint of human rights can teach me what human rights are.
READ BELOW AN ARTICLE i WROTE IN 2009
Feature Article of Sunday, 9 August 2009
Columnist: Sarpong, Justice
Criminals Have Rights
CRIMINALS HAVE RIGHTS, OUR CONSTITUTION SAYS SO.
A mason walking to work early one morning around 6.00AM was pounced on and beaten to death about a year ago in Accra, because another man has snatched a lady's purse and the people were looking for this purse snatcher when they chanced on a hardworking man walking to work and beat him to death, in what is known in Ghana as mob justice. Were those people who beat this man to death criminals? That is up to forumers to judge with their pious conscience, but a father, an Uncle, a brother and a husband was killed because we demand instance justice as Ghanaians.
A school mate was beaten to a pulp and almost killed during the height of the Agege phenomenon when a shoe that came to be known as a 'PLATFORM' was in vogue and a must have in those days among students. This school mate bought the shoe from an Agege returnee who might have stolen it from somebody. This guy was walking around Kejetia in his newly aquired 'platform shoes when somebody shouted; THIEF, THIEF, THIEF, THAT IS MY SHOES, and a mob set upon this student who was only saved because one of the people in the crowd recognised him as a student from a prominent family making Asokwa Kumasi as a home.
A friend who lived in USA for more than twenty years returned to Ghana to live and contribute to the development of our beloved Ghana when armed robbers attacked his house one night, robbed and killed him at his East Legon residence about five years ago, thank God, the wife and children were still in Atlanta, USA. Do I want these armed robbers caught and shot at the spot? As a friend, I would love to get instant justice and satisfaction to see somebody paid for that crime with their own life for killing this guy who toiled for his money in Atlanta USA only to be killed in his own country in Ghana, but what about killing somebody instantly for this crime to satisfy myself and then finding out the perceived armed robber was not actually an armed robber but an innocent individual passing through the neighborhood to work and got caught in the melee?
Yes, the Police should shoot to kill any armed robber who engages them in a shoot-out, that is not in dispute, the problem is that, a Regional Minister should not stand in a podium and disseminate a falsehood about criminals not having any rights when our own constitution says otherwise..Human Right advocates are not demanding the rights of criminals only but the rights of everybody and they should be thanked instead of the castigation they are receiving.
It is this stupid, "criminals have no rights" that led to P/NDC murdering hundreds, if not thousands of Ghanaians because everybody arrested by them were deemed as criminals without any court finding these individuals guilty.
The problem here is that, we've lodged two issues together and we have some people in this forum who are too dense to decipher it.
One of the issues is; SHOULD ARMED ROBBERS BE KILLED WHEN THEY ENGAGE THE POLICE IN A SHOOT-OUT? I personally believe an armed robber who shoot at the Police should be shot at and if it means killing him or her, so be it.
The second issue is, DO CRIMINALS HAVE RIGHTS? According to our own fourth Republic constitution, criminals are guaranteed their basic human rights and therefore it is idiotic and complete nonsense when a Regional Minister stands at a podium and said "Criminals have no rights". Did this Minister read the constitution before swearing on it? Is his word the final arbiter to the constitution?
I presume we all have a modicum of intelligence if we can type on a PC board to express our opinions, but sometimes emotions take the place of sound discourse in this forum and that is really really sad. Can we have a matured discourse on such important issue like this without people sermonizing their pious morals on us as if they are the only custodians of morality?
The point is this;
1. Armed robbers should not be spared if they try to shoot their way out of a jam, but Police should also be careful before killing innocent Ghanaians. Ghanaians have a tendency of using the Police and the Army to settle Personnal scores so we should be careful what we demand. A case in point is when a man competing with another man for the affection of a beautiful lady one night saw his rival coming out of this lady's room shouted, THIEF, THIEF, only to be confronted by this lady who saved this man's life or who knows what might have happened to him.
2. Criminals have rights because sometimes wrong people are arrested for crimes they did not commit and without this rights, innocent people might find themselves in jails in Ghana for years without being committed of any crimes.
Not long ago, it was reported in this forum where a large number of Ghanaians are langushing in jails as long as eight years without being found guilty of any crimes and in some cases have not gone to court for their cases to be adjudicated, and that is not right as a civilized society to treat human beings like animals.
PEOPLE, THINK ABOUT IT, YOU CAN BECOME A PREY TO SUCH INJUSTICE, THINK AND STOP THIS EMOTIONAL STUPIDITY.
Armed robbers are a menace to society and every method should be adopted to eliminate that canker from society but we should not trample or throw our rights as human beings to achieve that goal which might bring a bigger problem of people getting arrested and thrown to jail for years because we perceive them to be criminals with no rights, that is not a civil society but a jungle I don't want any part of.
P. Akyeampong 10 years ago
Sarps, that was a good article. It appears when it comes to the rights of every Ghanaian citizen, we are both on the same page.
Sarps, that was a good article. It appears when it comes to the rights of every Ghanaian citizen, we are both on the same page.
target 10 years ago
well said
well said
Stupid Fool 10 years ago
So are you sensible? You're more stupid than the actual sense of the word. What you've said makes no sense at all. You're either being mischievous or don't understand what you're saying. Fool! Fool!! Fool!!!
So are you sensible? You're more stupid than the actual sense of the word. What you've said makes no sense at all. You're either being mischievous or don't understand what you're saying. Fool! Fool!! Fool!!!
Bombardier 10 years ago
For the first time, you have made some sense.These
ladies have been in this shop llifting business for some time now & I am sure their cup is full. They need no sympathy. If you reward bad behavior, expect to see more of it. ... read full comment
For the first time, you have made some sense.These
ladies have been in this shop llifting business for some time now & I am sure their cup is full. They need no sympathy. If you reward bad behavior, expect to see more of it. Critics are rather being senseless, period!.
LONTO-BOY 10 years ago
Kwame, quite frankly, I think you've displayed your fundamental lack of or misunderstanding of the principles of Criminal Justice System of a civilised society. There's no doubt such shoplifting or thievery should be condemne ... read full comment
Kwame, quite frankly, I think you've displayed your fundamental lack of or misunderstanding of the principles of Criminal Justice System of a civilised society. There's no doubt such shoplifting or thievery should be condemned by the Ghanaian public. But, the context of Mrs Nana Oye-Lithur's bid to seek possible compensation from Mr Price/the shop management for the shoplifting female suspects shouldn't be seen as an oddly 'glorification' of shoplifting. The compensation is for the appalling and humiliating ordeal the female suspects were subjected to by the Shop management and the security guards, instead of handing them over to the Police or pursue the right legal action against the suspects. Absolutely appalling! This isn't a support for the shoplifters. Far from it. Even having a reasonable evidence against those suspects isn't an excuse for such shocking humiliation.
SARPONG 10 years ago
Okatakyie Lonto, the shop keeper as you said resorted to jungle justice which merits a cash punishment in this case to set as an example to Ghanaians to follow laid down rules, no dispute about that but do we have to compensa ... read full comment
Okatakyie Lonto, the shop keeper as you said resorted to jungle justice which merits a cash punishment in this case to set as an example to Ghanaians to follow laid down rules, no dispute about that but do we have to compensate or reward rhese thieves? "DAABIDA"
The three young ladies should rather thank their sex as females in avoiding lynching. If they were to be young men, believe me, they would have been set on by shoppers and lynched or in best case scenerio, would have been beaten to pulps.
I guess you remember the young lady who stole clothes at the Legon campus and was sexually abused by more than seven guys. These ladies really came out easy if all they were subjected to was crawling.
I disagree with those people saying that the young ladies have been scared by this ordeal. The moment they decided to steal panties, they have decided their dignity were not important to them anymore.
The shop owner, Mr Price should be punished but these ladies should not benefit from their criminality or in the best case scenerio, if these young thieves believe their rights were trampled on, they themselves should sue the shopkeeper. The state should not try to get a compensation for them. Crime should not pay.
LONTO-BOY 10 years ago
OKATAKYIE SARPONG, your thoughts and sentiments are completely understandable.
OKATAKYIE SARPONG, your thoughts and sentiments are completely understandable.
Concerned Citizen 10 years ago
I have never seen these human right activists asking for compensation for lynched thieves families. Next time lynch these thieves and their families will even be ashamed to claim their bodies let alone seek compensation.
I have never seen these human right activists asking for compensation for lynched thieves families. Next time lynch these thieves and their families will even be ashamed to claim their bodies let alone seek compensation.
Lala 10 years ago
Well said Sarpong
Well said Sarpong
Prof. Kawawa 10 years ago
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about theses girls?
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about theses girls?
yaww 10 years ago
A PHD holder who dont understand basic human rights
A PHD holder who dont understand basic human rights
Ajit Babu 10 years ago
Your stupidity is amazing. Armed robbers were shot because they engaged in shoot outs with the police.
Your stupidity is amazing. Armed robbers were shot because they engaged in shoot outs with the police.
Prof. Kawawa 10 years ago
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about these girls?
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about these girls?
Prof. Kawawa 10 years ago
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about theses girls?
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about theses girls?
Yaw Kota, from KKb. 10 years ago
It is really not correct if you are coming from a disciplined home to rather pamper the child who stole fish or meat from the soup bowl instead of denying him/her of meat for some days.
Who knows whether this is the first t ... read full comment
It is really not correct if you are coming from a disciplined home to rather pamper the child who stole fish or meat from the soup bowl instead of denying him/her of meat for some days.
Who knows whether this is the first time for these so called Legon girls, which I doubt, but they should rather be made to be bonded of good behavior after spending 10 days in prison. The other day a man was jailed 18 months for stealing plantain. If we start compensate these girls and are left off the hook one day they would be wives of Ministers if not Ministers themselves and that is where they would be stealing BIG TIME wanting to get $2 million every year from who knows from where.
If I were a parent to any of these girls, I would be very ashamed for me and the family. How much does panties cost for you to go and steal and be caught. Oh! Why ladies why!
Prof Kawawa 10 years ago
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about these girls?
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about these girls?
LEXIS ANTAL 10 years ago
Is the Gender, Children and Social Protection Minister rather trying encourage shoplifting? This is really absurd for her to think of compensation for these thieves o were caught in the act. Then I bet Ghana should be prepare ... read full comment
Is the Gender, Children and Social Protection Minister rather trying encourage shoplifting? This is really absurd for her to think of compensation for these thieves o were caught in the act. Then I bet Ghana should be prepared to see more of these happening for them to be compensated anytime
ERIC DOGBEY 10 years ago
AM SOO GLAD AHOOFE HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD.WHAT IS WRONG IS WRONG.I THINK AHOOFE'S ARTICLE SHOULD END IT ALL
AM SOO GLAD AHOOFE HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD.WHAT IS WRONG IS WRONG.I THINK AHOOFE'S ARTICLE SHOULD END IT ALL
OMANBA 10 years ago
Oye Lithur is not happy because according to her women are special and need not be treated like that.I hope she is here not discriminating against men.As for Rawlings he better shut up.Does he remember how he treated Ghanaian ... read full comment
Oye Lithur is not happy because according to her women are special and need not be treated like that.I hope she is here not discriminating against men.As for Rawlings he better shut up.Does he remember how he treated Ghanaians during his AFRC rule?The worst violation of the rights of Ghanaians happened under his rule and with his approval.
MARK 10 years ago
FACT: THEY STOLE
FACT: THEY WERE DENIED DUE PROCESS
LAW: 2 WERE BROKEN
1) DUE PROCESS LAW- GIRLS WIN THAT
2) LOSS OF GOODS- STORE OWNER WINS THAT
CONCLUSION: BOTH THE GIRLS AND MR PRICE BROKE THE LAW
JUDGEMENT: IN MY O ... read full comment
FACT: THEY STOLE
FACT: THEY WERE DENIED DUE PROCESS
LAW: 2 WERE BROKEN
1) DUE PROCESS LAW- GIRLS WIN THAT
2) LOSS OF GOODS- STORE OWNER WINS THAT
CONCLUSION: BOTH THE GIRLS AND MR PRICE BROKE THE LAW
JUDGEMENT: IN MY OPINION, BOTH SHOULD GET THEIR PUNISHMENTS & REWARDS ACCORDING TO LAW ON THE BOOKS RIGHT NOW!
WAY FORWARD: IF SOCIETY DOES NOT LIKE THE OUTCOME BASED ON LAW, THEN THEY SHOULD CONTACT THE LEGISLATURE TO WRITE NEW LAWS!!
CASE CLOSED!!!
Joe Kojo 10 years ago
Thank you Mark. It seems many readers are those who do not understand the nature of this problem, or refuse to look sat it in the right perspective.
Both shoplifters and owners have rights and responsibilities within the c ... read full comment
Thank you Mark. It seems many readers are those who do not understand the nature of this problem, or refuse to look sat it in the right perspective.
Both shoplifters and owners have rights and responsibilities within the context of this event. Again they have the extent to which they can exercise these rights and responsibilities. Fortunately we have the facility to deal with this problem, namely, the criminal laws and the law of tortious liabilities in Ghanas.
Nana Oye's stance is simply looking at how the laws can effctively operate to resolve the problems we are all talking about, but Okoampah is either failing to look at things in their right perspective, or downright ignorant of how the laws operate.
Ebo 10 years ago
What about someone stealing Ghana´s diplomatic passports and sharing them among his relatives to facilitae drug business? What about that? Is it also not a crime even more serious? Useless and hopeless bigot!
What about someone stealing Ghana´s diplomatic passports and sharing them among his relatives to facilitae drug business? What about that? Is it also not a crime even more serious? Useless and hopeless bigot!
Nana Agyin 10 years ago
Kwame Ahoofe ..You are not Correct .Is that how shoplifters are treated in NY .Do You Understand Human rights ? In abroad where Students can study and work , Student do steal from shops .
Kwame Ahoofe ..You are not Correct .Is that how shoplifters are treated in NY .Do You Understand Human rights ? In abroad where Students can study and work , Student do steal from shops .
grace 10 years ago
Does that make it right to steal? They got what they deserved, they do not deserve any form of compensation, whatsoever. They need to have a criminal hx out of this, to teach others a lesson. The students probably steal from ... read full comment
Does that make it right to steal? They got what they deserved, they do not deserve any form of compensation, whatsoever. They need to have a criminal hx out of this, to teach others a lesson. The students probably steal from them all the time. they should use their 'ashawo' money to pay for their underwears for their "business".
mensah abrampa 10 years ago
Living in the US has taught me that there are good and bad people everywhere under the sun. The difference is how the laws are applied in each country to protect life and property .
Shoplifting is perhaps as old as any other ... read full comment
Living in the US has taught me that there are good and bad people everywhere under the sun. The difference is how the laws are applied in each country to protect life and property .
Shoplifting is perhaps as old as any other human vice but it's also a punishable offence everywhere.
Two things happened in the Accra Mall shoplifting incident. The shoplifters broke the law but so did the mall's management who took the law into their own hands . They both deserve to face the criminal justice system and punished if proven guilty. The court may decide to award some compensations if they decide rights of the shoplifters were violated in anyway.
The law is not supposed to be a respector of any person and must be justly applied to everyone and in every case. We have to prove to the world that we're a law abiding nation and people's rights , whether citizens or non-citizens, will be protected at all times and in all instances. What happened at the Accra Mall is despicable and reprehensible, belongs to the mad men era and must not be tolerated any more in any decent society. It's the mall's management that deserves the most condemnation because they should have known better and must bow down the heads in shame for painting such a horrific picture of our nation to the outside world.
Shoplifting will always be with us and it must be discouraged to the extent that its occurence is reduced to the barest minimum and punished by law whenever it occurs. We must remember that as citizens we all share equally certain rights and that includes criminals and all law breakers. All whose acts are suspected to have fallen foul of the law must have their day in court and when proven guilty punished according to our laws. No suspect is guilty until proven guilty by a court of justice.
Cindy 10 years ago
Few years ago, a young lady grab hold of my wallet inside a dept store, then took to her heels. I chased after her as the wallet contains very important documents. I got hold of her, knock her to the ground in the parking lot ... read full comment
Few years ago, a young lady grab hold of my wallet inside a dept store, then took to her heels. I chased after her as the wallet contains very important documents. I got hold of her, knock her to the ground in the parking lot as she refused to hand over my wallet, which she's hidden inside her bra. I beat the bloody out of her then stripped her naked by removing her pant. Police were called, she got arrested for theft & I was not charge with anything. Did I violated her human rights by going after my wallet, beating the sh**t out of her & stripping her naked? Does she deserve compensation because of what I did to her? Wasn't my human rights violated when she stole my wallet?
Kwame 10 years ago
If my memory did not escape me, then uncle Dr. Kwame Okuampa-Ahoofe I read and I could still remember that one of the fist people who came out to defend the three women shoplifters was Ursula Owusu.
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If my memory did not escape me, then uncle Dr. Kwame Okuampa-Ahoofe I read and I could still remember that one of the fist people who came out to defend the three women shoplifters was Ursula Owusu.
On this occasion we wrote as was the case of the Legon laptop computer thief who told her captors to have sex with her and let her off the hook. If my memory is not like that of the wasp, then I am sure that you are one of those who supported that woman and also the Yutong woman.
I have not seen the video, but I wrote on many occasions that Hugo Chavez videos have thought people around the world, including judges to use such unapproved videos to convict a person.
mensah abrampa 10 years ago
Buddy, two wrongs don't make a right. She was wrong for stealing your wallet but you were also wrong for taking the law into your own hands. If we allow everyone to take the law into their own hands then we'll find ourselves ... read full comment
Buddy, two wrongs don't make a right. She was wrong for stealing your wallet but you were also wrong for taking the law into your own hands. If we allow everyone to take the law into their own hands then we'll find ourselves in a state of anarchy. No one will feel safe any longer stepping out of their doors because all that a stronger musculsr person who hates you for who and what you are needs to do is just shout thief and he can beat the hell out of you? What about if you are innocent? It's not the power of the fist but the rule of law in a civilized society that counts. Perhaps people have lost confidence in the criminal justice system of Ghana. If that's so then it must be addressed immediately. What you're suggesting is jungle justice which deserves no place in any civilized society. How are we going to attract foreign investors and promote tourism if we choose to live in the mad men era? By your standards, will anyone feel safe in Ghana? I wouldn't want to live in such lawless environment. It's one of the reasons our nation is endowed with so much natural and human resources but consistently wallow in poverty and retrogress.
kwaa 10 years ago
I got slapped once by the police. I wasn't taken to the police station. Can I be compensated? can't wait to chop any money from the police.
I got slapped once by the police. I wasn't taken to the police station. Can I be compensated? can't wait to chop any money from the police.
London 10 years ago
Civilised nations do not treat people like how those 3 ladies were treated.
Western nations look at Africa as backwards and this incident only goes to prove them right.
Civilised nations do not treat people like how those 3 ladies were treated.
Western nations look at Africa as backwards and this incident only goes to prove them right.
London 10 years ago
The so called professor who wrote this article knows fully well that if this happened in the USA, the ladies would be compensated big time, millions of dollars.
Does he think our people are inferior and that when their human ... read full comment
The so called professor who wrote this article knows fully well that if this happened in the USA, the ladies would be compensated big time, millions of dollars.
Does he think our people are inferior and that when their human rights are violated they should NOT be compensated?
Abeeku Mensah 10 years ago
It is sad some Ghanaians would list Dr. Okoampa-Ahoofe as a Ghanaian intellectual without the basic understanding of what it is to be an intellectual. In today's article Dr. Okoampa-Ahoofe clearly shows up empty headed or inc ... read full comment
It is sad some Ghanaians would list Dr. Okoampa-Ahoofe as a Ghanaian intellectual without the basic understanding of what it is to be an intellectual. In today's article Dr. Okoampa-Ahoofe clearly shows up empty headed or incapable of providing principled basis for his opposition to those calling for these shoplifters to be compensated.
The thrust of Dr. Akoampa-Ahoofe's argument is that there have been thugs in Ghana who have done much worse things to many a people in Ghana without consequences and thus these latter day shoplifters do not deserve compensation of any kind. His argument therefore sets Rawlings era abuses as the norm for Ghana's crime and punishment. Conveniently, Dr. Okoampa-Ahoofe forgets to go back in his corner of history to pull one from the UGC era where resorting to terroristic acts was the trademark of the UGCC which bear the crest of his heroes, J.B.Danquah, K.A. Busia, Obetsebi-Lamptey and others. The logic from Okoampa-Ahoofe and others of his class of mental misfits is provide rationale that Nkrumah stole the prime minister position from the UP party and the price Nkrumah and the CPP had to pay was endure bombs and a military coup. This is the intellectual bankruptcy of Ghana’s elite of the UP/UGCC/Matemeo/NPP kind who have learnt the craft of choosing starting points in history that are convenient and or suits their unprincipled stance when it comes to events of moral turpitude.
target 10 years ago
well said !!!
well said !!!
SP 10 years ago
Oh, what a stupid professor this one is! Even Rodney king was compensated for the beatings merted out to him by the police when he drove drunk, etc. Ghana is not a jungle, you stupid professor
Oh, what a stupid professor this one is! Even Rodney king was compensated for the beatings merted out to him by the police when he drove drunk, etc. Ghana is not a jungle, you stupid professor
Ajit Babu 10 years ago
This professor has shown the whole world the magnitude of his ignorance.
This professor has shown the whole world the magnitude of his ignorance.
dunaa 10 years ago
Amen! Well said. Nana Oye is part of the kleptocracy that Ghana's government today. I can hardly expect better.
Amen! Well said. Nana Oye is part of the kleptocracy that Ghana's government today. I can hardly expect better.
grace 10 years ago
The minister should concentrate on getting good health and school facilities for our children, not compensation for thieves!
The minister should concentrate on getting good health and school facilities for our children, not compensation for thieves!
Komla 10 years ago
You are missing the point. We all agree that shoplifting is wrong and against the law. However, the shop managers should not have taken the law into their own hands. I hope you are not teaching your students that two wrongs m ... read full comment
You are missing the point. We all agree that shoplifting is wrong and against the law. However, the shop managers should not have taken the law into their own hands. I hope you are not teaching your students that two wrongs make one right.
Asiwome 10 years ago
All one needs know is the law and one can get away with murder.
All one needs know is the law and one can get away with murder.
They are your own people
Mr. Ahoofe, for the first time in history, I actually agree with you 100%. Yes, what shop owners did was downright degrading & must be fined, but the lady thieves deserve absolutely nothing for their bad conduct. This ministe ...
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You have not heard of human rights, have you?
Now ask yourselve whether these guys humiliated in public glare can sue or not?
Ok. what about the human rights of armed robbers, gays, murderers, rapists and other criminals? Pickpockets are get lynched for stealing less and nobody talk about their human rights. Men and boys who shop lift underwears get ...
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GET RID OF UR ARCHAIC MENTALITY. JUST BCOS THE PUBLIC HAVE SUCCEEDED IN NABBING ATAA AYI. DOSENT MEAN THEY HVE THE RIGHT TO LYNCH HIM EITHER. THERE ARE RIGHT AND WRONG THINGS TO DO IN SUCH CIRCUMSTANCES. U SEE, WEN I SAY MOST ...
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Illiterate fool, don't blame your illiteracy on me ok? If you don't understand English, find a forum where the medium of communication is your mother's tongue, you dumbass with an IQ of a rotten egg.
Where did I say it is ...
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OKOAMPAH, ASSUMING A BLACK KID FROM THE BRONX IS CAUGHT SHOPLIFTING AT MACY'S, BLOOMINGDALE'S OR TIFFANY AND TREATED LIKE THESE GIRLS; WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?
AS COMPENSATION N BAN THEM FROM COMING TO THE STORE. MR PRICE U SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN HUMILIATE THIEVES IN UR STORE. IF A WISE MAN STOOPS AS LOW AS THE FOOL. WAT WILL OTHERS SAY ABOUT THE WISE PERSON? THAT HE IS JUST AS DUM ...
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The only compensation these three thieves deserve is an apology for being humiliated. They don't deserve monetary compensation.
"AS COMPENSATION N BAN THEM FROM COMING TO THE STORE"
What are you trying to say? You need to learn how to write proper English here. At least write understandable English.
In the Akan-language, it is even more poignant and mellifluous; and it runs as follows: "Nea ade wono na odi" - to wit, "It is the owner who consumes/ appropriates." In other words, the three young women shoplifters appear no ...
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You are right. Ahoofe's article is a knee-jerk reaction to Nana Oye Lithur's statements. The management of the store should have handed the girls over to the Police for further processing. Not even armed robbers are subjected ...
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Oooh my brother, in this 21st centuary and a country said to have reached lower middle class has yet to show to the world that we have proper justice procedures and they effectively work.
In the presence of Police, these g ...
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Oh Tacitus of Rome, you are making fool of your self. you were talking sense in all your comments but ended with a foolish comment. are you trying to tell us that asylum seekers cannot be good professors? check your words nex ...
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If you don't want humiliation, don't go stealing!!!
Okoampa has proved to me by this article that you don't understand what people are tyring to say. The shop cannot take the law into its own hands and punish wrongdoers. Cannot is a civilized country.
Mansah, did you read the article before commenting? This article clearly condemned the store owners & suggested a fined be impose on them & not compensate the three women for stealing.
There is a distinction between committing a crime and having one's human rights violated. In this instance, regardless of the shoplifting charge, the girls can sue for the latter.
Committing a crime does not necessarily me ...
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You are really sick. Now I understand what a Policeman told me about shooting to kill and not to disarm. He said you are more likely to get sued and find guilty if you hurt a criminal than if you kill the person.
Now the h ...
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Sarpong, you can make your point without resorting to insults which has unfortunately been your trademark on Ghanaweb over the years.
For someone who has lived in America for so many years, I find your comment on human rig ...
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Sorry Mr Acheampong, I got carried away with all the people calling for human rights. I am a proponent of human rights and it is just the hypocrisy of all these people calling for the human rights of these thieves but will ca ...
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"For someone who has lived in America for so many years, I find your comment on human rights disturbing, to say the least."
Mr Acheampong, I have been speaking for rights of all people when human rights was not in vogue am ...
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Sarps, that was a good article. It appears when it comes to the rights of every Ghanaian citizen, we are both on the same page.
well said
So are you sensible? You're more stupid than the actual sense of the word. What you've said makes no sense at all. You're either being mischievous or don't understand what you're saying. Fool! Fool!! Fool!!!
For the first time, you have made some sense.These
ladies have been in this shop llifting business for some time now & I am sure their cup is full. They need no sympathy. If you reward bad behavior, expect to see more of it. ...
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Kwame, quite frankly, I think you've displayed your fundamental lack of or misunderstanding of the principles of Criminal Justice System of a civilised society. There's no doubt such shoplifting or thievery should be condemne ...
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Okatakyie Lonto, the shop keeper as you said resorted to jungle justice which merits a cash punishment in this case to set as an example to Ghanaians to follow laid down rules, no dispute about that but do we have to compensa ...
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OKATAKYIE SARPONG, your thoughts and sentiments are completely understandable.
I have never seen these human right activists asking for compensation for lynched thieves families. Next time lynch these thieves and their families will even be ashamed to claim their bodies let alone seek compensation.
Well said Sarpong
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about theses girls?
A PHD holder who dont understand basic human rights
Your stupidity is amazing. Armed robbers were shot because they engaged in shoot outs with the police.
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about these girls?
You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about theses girls?
It is really not correct if you are coming from a disciplined home to rather pamper the child who stole fish or meat from the soup bowl instead of denying him/her of meat for some days.
Who knows whether this is the first t ...
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You are right on target here. I find this whole saga dramatic. Armed robbers have been caught and shot, where was Oye Littur. Whats so special about these girls?
Is the Gender, Children and Social Protection Minister rather trying encourage shoplifting? This is really absurd for her to think of compensation for these thieves o were caught in the act. Then I bet Ghana should be prepare ...
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AM SOO GLAD AHOOFE HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD.WHAT IS WRONG IS WRONG.I THINK AHOOFE'S ARTICLE SHOULD END IT ALL
Oye Lithur is not happy because according to her women are special and need not be treated like that.I hope she is here not discriminating against men.As for Rawlings he better shut up.Does he remember how he treated Ghanaian ...
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FACT: THEY STOLE
FACT: THEY WERE DENIED DUE PROCESS
LAW: 2 WERE BROKEN
1) DUE PROCESS LAW- GIRLS WIN THAT
2) LOSS OF GOODS- STORE OWNER WINS THAT
CONCLUSION: BOTH THE GIRLS AND MR PRICE BROKE THE LAW
JUDGEMENT: IN MY O ...
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Thank you Mark. It seems many readers are those who do not understand the nature of this problem, or refuse to look sat it in the right perspective.
Both shoplifters and owners have rights and responsibilities within the c ...
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What about someone stealing Ghana´s diplomatic passports and sharing them among his relatives to facilitae drug business? What about that? Is it also not a crime even more serious? Useless and hopeless bigot!
Kwame Ahoofe ..You are not Correct .Is that how shoplifters are treated in NY .Do You Understand Human rights ? In abroad where Students can study and work , Student do steal from shops .
Does that make it right to steal? They got what they deserved, they do not deserve any form of compensation, whatsoever. They need to have a criminal hx out of this, to teach others a lesson. The students probably steal from ...
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Living in the US has taught me that there are good and bad people everywhere under the sun. The difference is how the laws are applied in each country to protect life and property .
Shoplifting is perhaps as old as any other ...
read full comment
Few years ago, a young lady grab hold of my wallet inside a dept store, then took to her heels. I chased after her as the wallet contains very important documents. I got hold of her, knock her to the ground in the parking lot ...
read full comment
If my memory did not escape me, then uncle Dr. Kwame Okuampa-Ahoofe I read and I could still remember that one of the fist people who came out to defend the three women shoplifters was Ursula Owusu.
On this occasion we wrot ...
read full comment
Buddy, two wrongs don't make a right. She was wrong for stealing your wallet but you were also wrong for taking the law into your own hands. If we allow everyone to take the law into their own hands then we'll find ourselves ...
read full comment
I got slapped once by the police. I wasn't taken to the police station. Can I be compensated? can't wait to chop any money from the police.
Civilised nations do not treat people like how those 3 ladies were treated.
Western nations look at Africa as backwards and this incident only goes to prove them right.
The so called professor who wrote this article knows fully well that if this happened in the USA, the ladies would be compensated big time, millions of dollars.
Does he think our people are inferior and that when their human ...
read full comment
It is sad some Ghanaians would list Dr. Okoampa-Ahoofe as a Ghanaian intellectual without the basic understanding of what it is to be an intellectual. In today's article Dr. Okoampa-Ahoofe clearly shows up empty headed or inc ...
read full comment
well said !!!
Oh, what a stupid professor this one is! Even Rodney king was compensated for the beatings merted out to him by the police when he drove drunk, etc. Ghana is not a jungle, you stupid professor
This professor has shown the whole world the magnitude of his ignorance.
Amen! Well said. Nana Oye is part of the kleptocracy that Ghana's government today. I can hardly expect better.
The minister should concentrate on getting good health and school facilities for our children, not compensation for thieves!
You are missing the point. We all agree that shoplifting is wrong and against the law. However, the shop managers should not have taken the law into their own hands. I hope you are not teaching your students that two wrongs m ...
read full comment
All one needs know is the law and one can get away with murder.