Noah’s Flood: Exposing The Biblical Myths III

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master 12 years ago

Gobbledygook, gibberish!

Gobbledygook, gibberish!
C.Y. ANDY-K 12 years ago

I can understand your problem if you haven't read Parts 1 and 11, this one being a continuation. You must go back to read at least Part II, posted yesterday, which this one is a direct continuation of in order to understand t ...
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I can understand your problem if you haven't read Parts 1 and 11, this one being a continuation. You must go back to read at least Part II, posted yesterday, which this one is a direct continuation of in order to understand the whole.

Come to think of it, I might post it here, so that I can respond to all comments here, as I was unable to do so yesterday.

Andy-K
Modin Sane 12 years ago

YOU POSTED SOMETIME LAST WEEK ABOUT A BRAZILIAN ANTHROPOLOGIST WHO HAS EXPOSED THE TRICKS OF 'JUJUMEN AND JUJU' IN AFRO-BRAZILIAN RELIGION.
ID LOVE TO READ THIS GUY'S BOOK. ANY INFO?

YOU POSTED SOMETIME LAST WEEK ABOUT A BRAZILIAN ANTHROPOLOGIST WHO HAS EXPOSED THE TRICKS OF 'JUJUMEN AND JUJU' IN AFRO-BRAZILIAN RELIGION.
ID LOVE TO READ THIS GUY'S BOOK. ANY INFO?
C.Y. ANDY-K 12 years ago

Modin Sane,

I can ferret out the coordinates for you. It was a very fat work, published in the 90s. Unfortunately, I am no longer in Norway so that I can just walk straight to it at the CMI library and get it for you.

B ...
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Modin Sane,

I can ferret out the coordinates for you. It was a very fat work, published in the 90s. Unfortunately, I am no longer in Norway so that I can just walk straight to it at the CMI library and get it for you.

BTW, it was actually the Yoruba "ifa" and all that juju that he studied by becoming an ordained priest. The guy was Brazilian and went to study it at the roots, not the adulterated one in Brazil

Andy-K
Nyansaba 12 years ago

Oh, how easily the Devil can lead people astray. How could you be sure that this mystical Berosus did not rather copy his version from the Biblical account? Which manner of man would put more faith in a source that he has bee ...
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Oh, how easily the Devil can lead people astray. How could you be sure that this mystical Berosus did not rather copy his version from the Biblical account? Which manner of man would put more faith in a source that he has been told is extinct and rather reject the one that is still extant (existing and available)? The devil has a way con making those who have rejected God in their hearts to believe the devil's lies and rather reject God's truth! NO ONE CAN EVER SUBVERT GOD'S TRUTH AS ETERNALLY RECORDED IN THE BIBLE. THE BIBLE HAS BEEN TRYING TO DO JUST THAT FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS AND HAS NEVER SUCCEDDED. BUT HE KEEPS TRYING AND HOPING BECAUSE IN EVERY GENERATION, HE EASILY FINDS GULLIBLE MINDS TO MANIPULATE FOR HIS HOPELESS CAUSE!
Nyansaba 12 years ago

TITLE CORRECTION FOR THE ABOVE RESPONSE: THE DEVIL'S LIES VRS GOD'S TRUTH!

TITLE CORRECTION FOR THE ABOVE RESPONSE: THE DEVIL'S LIES VRS GOD'S TRUTH!
JoJo - USA 12 years ago

Thank you Ghanaweb for the Headlines.
His Magic and achievements will linger
on the minds of Humankind FOREVER.
"REST IN PEACE MANDELA"

Thank you Ghanaweb for the Headlines.
His Magic and achievements will linger
on the minds of Humankind FOREVER.
"REST IN PEACE MANDELA"
Me4U 12 years ago

I tried to follow the article and ended up wasting my time. Personally I found it very difficult to follow the article or what the topic was about.

Don't give us a thesis. just make your point in a short article that Noah ...
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I tried to follow the article and ended up wasting my time. Personally I found it very difficult to follow the article or what the topic was about.

Don't give us a thesis. just make your point in a short article that Noah's Ark never existed and was just made up by some religious fanatics to show how an omnipotent force could terminated all life when he/she got pissed at the immorality of 'animal/mankind'.
C.Y. ANDY-K 12 years ago

Here is it.

NOAH’S FLOOD: EXPOSING THE BIBLICAL MYTHS II
Folks,

As a follow up to whether we Africans are also descendants of Noah (or Jews), I hereby submit another article in three series for those who seek the tru ...
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Here is it.

NOAH’S FLOOD: EXPOSING THE BIBLICAL MYTHS II
Folks,

As a follow up to whether we Africans are also descendants of Noah (or Jews), I hereby submit another article in three series for those who seek the truth and, equally, those who believe in the biblical myths because they have never been exposed to the materials debunking such myths. I posted Series II and III on Okyeame in the 90s under the title "Noah! O! Noah! The Flood Waters Are Coming!". Article IV is the first of my promised exposition on the topic, pointing out indepth some of the issues mentioned the series. It examines the relevant biblical passages in Genesis.

Of all the myths of the bible, one of the most intriguing is that of Noah and the flood which supposedly destroyed all life on earth except those saved on the ark constructed by Noah, at the behest of God. That centuries of learning have shown this to be a mere myth and cannot be scientifically substantiated has not stopped some from trying to do so. This article, divided into two Sections II and III, is a rebuttal of one such attempt by the brand of Christians known as "scientific" creationists. Their main objective is to prove by logic and science that the earth was created about 6000 years ago (as the biblical account of the Jews will have it; Muslims put creation 50,000 years back), and not evolved over several billion years, as genuine scientists claim. By asserting the inerrancy of the biblical accounts, you'd find a strong resemblance between them and our brand of zealots we call "Chrife" or the "born-again" Christians, most first generation converts, or off-springs of “christo-paganists” - apologies to Rev. Prof. Baeta who coined that phrase to describe the brand of syncretic African churches that include a very strong dose of African traditional beliefs in their dogmas and practice. They are better known as “charismatic” churches these days, which have now taken over our societies with their own brand of abject superstition.

The article speaks for itself, debunking completely the attempt to foist a new hoax on the American people. We Africans must also not be hoodwinked by these myths any longer. I therefore call upon all those who still have their wits about them to begin to search for the truth about these things for themselves by looking up the references mentioned. Of course, as we had earlier said, there are 1000s of books on the Bible, (and the Qur'an too; after all, this series started as an attempt to focus on violence in the name of Islam), with many exposing the myths behind the Bible. I can't quote all, not to say in one article!

Just as I said before, this is a process in the mental liberation of myself which I'm sharing with those who care (it's a free world!).

For clarity sake, as I've always said, no insults WITHOUT REASONED ARGUMENTS to justify the insults will be tolerated. By all means, call me a BIG FOOL, but in your superior wisdom and knowledge, explain to me why I am foolish. If not, I'll insult you back, if it pleases me. And don't threaten me with inquisitorial jargons like you are committing "blasphemy", etc. You won't get me to burn on any stakes, nor will I allow myself to be fried in any cauldron!

Enjoy yourselves.

Andy C.Y. Kwawukume
cyandyk@ymail.com

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'The Incredible Discovery of Noah's Ark': An Archaeological Quest?
By Richard A. Fox
Culled from the "Free Enquiry", Summer 1993:43-48

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(Richard A. Fox specializes in historical archaeology and the prehistory of the Great Plains. He is an assistant professor in the Department of Anthropology at the University of South Dakota.)

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In February 20, 1993, CBS television aired "The Incredible Discovery of Noah's Ark," an independently produced program purchased by the network. The ambitious goal was to determine if the great ship was "truth or fable" but the program title announced that conclusion straightaway. The producer billed the two-hour episode as an archaeological question for the "real truth." "New" archaeological explorations on Mt. Ararat, using new technology, would settle the issue.

Use of the word "new" immediately puzzled me. I knew of no archaeological expeditions to recover Noah's ark. I thought it was a myth. As it turned out, "Incredible" offered nothing to alter that perception, nor could I discern evidence of any fresh archaeological explorations.

Indeed, I did not see a single archaeologist among the "experts" interviewed, except Philip Hammond of the University of Utah. A genuine archaeologist, he was one of a handful of token sceptics. The program limited the sceptics to cameo appearances intended overtly to convey impartiality but otherwise designed to set them up as straw men. Doubtless much of their commentary never made the show. Not surprisingly, Hammond is listed in the American Anthropological Association directory.

On-screen ID-supers displayed profession and credentials as each "expert" testified. A Dr. Don Shockey, labeled a "professor of anthropology, explained gopher wood, the material of choice for arks in those days. Not shockingly, Shockey is not in the anthropology directory, nor is "Dr." Carl Baugh who, as a "paleoanthropologist," curiously talked only about his photo of the ark. Baugh's "science degrees," or rather lack: of them, are well known (see Kuban 1989), as are his childish efforts to prove that dinosaurs and humans once strolled together in Texas (e.g., Hastings 1987). Evidently the Texas "research" qualifies Baugh as a paleoanthropologist.

A Dr. Elfred Lee (also not listed) was the "archaeological illustrator." There is no such title in archaeology. Lee used "eyewitness testimony" to draw the ark, necessary because no one has ever produced the vessel. Larry Williams, who publishes a treasure-hunter newsletter, evidently lacks academic credentials, otherwise they would have been ballyhooed. He had been, we were told, around the world visiting archaeological sites. He was identified as a "publisher-archaeologist."

That is it for the archaeological "expertise." The program did mention that "thousands" had combed Mt. Ararat, trotting out an assortment of ark-hunters of every persuasion except archaeology. Nothing they were up to even remotely resembled archaeology. This is certainly startling. After all, the narrator declared an "archaeological quest." Why no archaelogists and no archaeology? It's simple. There would have been no story.

Just what was "Incredible" then? Not a religious mission, or so said the narrator. If not, why was so much more time devoted to global flood issues than to an archaeological quest? Numerous "experts" explained global flood "theory" details from astronomy to zoology. Now and then these segments were reinforced with amateurish skits portraying pre-flood wickedness, Noah, his family, and their odyssey. The narrator repeatedly referred to the biblical flood, claiming, for example, that "...the Bible is suddenly emerging as an uncanny historical document...."

Certainly Noah's ark implies a biblical flood, but archaeology does not deal with catastrophes. Even if archaeology could, the program's objective was to find an ark. So we might have expected "Incredible" to stick to "arkeology." But it did not. What possible connection, then, is there between archaeology and global flood theory punctuated with Noachian reenactment? The answer is singularly obvious. "Incredible" (and CBS) promoted a religious mission, and a peculiar soteriological one at that. CBS should have known better.

The religious link is important. Soteriology posits the following: (l) souls exist; (2) humans have (or are) souls; (3) souls survive corporeal death; and (4) at death, souls go to heaven or hell. Most Christians rely on faith in Christ for salvation, embracing the Bible as [as]a moral and spiritual aid, not as a scientific document. Not so the peculiar soteriologists - "creationists" as they are called. They insist on a fifth requirement for salvation: you must accept scripture literally as the inerrant word of the Bible-deity.

Of the several creationist varieties, "scientific" creationism is by far the most virulent (see McKown 1993). Despite the name, Scientific" creationists' motives are hardly scientific. Rather, they are singularly selfish. Indeed, anything that jeopardizes their salvation is false, even demonically inspired.

So, challenges must be eradicated, especially the evolutionary sciences (but also competing theologies). Thus, as "scientific" creationists would have it, the scientific knowledge accumulated worldwide over two centuries by thousands of dedicated biologists, zoologists, atmospheric scientists, physicists, geologists, astronomers, paleoanthropologists, archaeologists, anthropologists, historians, and more is bogus. All of it.

What are the odds? They approach certainty according to the experts on "Incredible." There is, however, a caveat. The "experts" were largely, if not exclusively, "scientific" creationists. But the audience had no way of knowing that. The producer rarely identified their institutions, except for those, like NASA and the Defense Department, which tend to appeal to authority. Affiliations that might have invited suspicion were conspicuously absent, especially the Institute for Creation Research (ICR).

ICR connections that I noticed included the Institute's founder Henry Morris ("professor of hydraulics"); his son John ("professor of geology"); John Whitcomb ("professor of Old Testament Studies"); and Tim LaHaye (a fire-and-brimstone fundamentalist preacher). These men have spent decades trying to impart their dogma into our schools under the guise of science. Thanks to the courts and the Constitution, their plans have been repeatedly scuttled, though failures have not deterred them. Today they infiltrate school boards and pressure textbook publishers. Now it appears "scientific" creationists, abetted by CBS, have adopted another strategy - infiltrating our homes!

What about the "facts"? The program had plenty of them. More notably, much was ignored. This approach is often acceptable in science, but as a privilege, not a right. In this case, "Incredible" abrogated its privilege, and here is why.

Scientists understand that extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proofs. The claims made in "Incredible" flatly contradicted the theory and hard-earned knowledge of a dozen or so disciplines, not to mention Old Testament scholarship. Now this is exceedingly extraordinary, even incredible, so much so that the producer was obligated to show the inadequacies of prevailing wisdom. Needless to say, that never happened.

Now to some claims, beginning with archaeology. Remember, for "scientific" creationists the issue is really not science. It's salvation, and nothing more. "Incredible" made much of hand-hewn timbers reportedly carted off Mt. Ararat over the years. Of these, only Fernand Navarra's have been available for analysis. We learned that three laboratories dated Navarra's wood. The date, "Incredible" announced, was five thousand years ago, a time, said the narrator, when "the Bible indicates a world-wide flood occurred" (cf. Whitcomb and Morris 1961:398; Morns 1974: 247).

Now, here is what we did not learn. The date came from color and density calculations made about 1955 at a Madrid forestry lab. Another lab, estimating the degree of lignitization, decided on a date of "remote antiquity." The third assigned an age of 4,500 years ago without commenting on method.

Archaeologists have no confidence in such methods. They do, however, routinely use radiocarbon dating, which is quite dependable. Perhaps that is why "Incredible" did not reveal that six labs have independently dated Navarra's "five thousand" year-old wood. Six uncorrected mean data range from 260 C.E. to 760 C.E. (sigmas average +/-90).

The oldest date is from a sample of insufficient size. Otherwise, five means average nearly 700 C.E. All five are statistically identical at one sigma (Taylor and Berger 1980:35). Calibration curve corrections indicate each date is actually younger. Bristlecone pine data suggest a sixth through ninth century provenance (Taylor and Berger 1980:35-36; Bailey 1989:95-98). Evidently the flood was much later than heretofore suspected.

Much was also made of Near Eastern flood stories. Dr. Charles Berlitz ("renowned linguist" and author of "The Bermuda Triangle"), claimed "stories of Noah" are "practically identical" in different "languages" (Babylonian, Persian, Sanskrit, and Egyptian). The only element that changes occasionally is the name of Noah. These accounts "certainly help support the Noah legend," insisted the narrator, but we were not told anything about them. Later, the focus fell on Mesopotamia, specifically the Gilgamesh epic. We learned that the epic "paralleled exactly the story of Noah in the Bible, suggesting the biblical account is far more than a fictional legend."

Berlitz and the scriptwriters are egregiously wrong, this time by commission. They are not stories of Noah." No flood story anywhere is "practically identical" to or parallels "exactly" the Genesis account(s) (e.g., see Dundes 1988). In fact, there is no evidence that ancient Egyptians had a deluge myth. Mesopotamian flood stories resemble Genesis structurally, yet they exhibit numerous and detailed differences (e.g., Speiser 1968:8-13; Dundes 1988). Furthermore, Mesopotamian accounts do not in any way suggest or support biblical accuracy.

"Incredible" wanted viewers to believe that all flood stories derived from the Genesis deluge (through Noah's descendants). The program implied that the Gilgamesh epic dates to the sixth century B.C.E. The tablets referred to are evidently those from the library of King Ashurbanipal (668-626 B.CE.). These tablets are probably younger than the oldest of two flood stories in Genesis (Yahwist, or "J" strand), likely set down between 962 B.C.E. and 848 B.C.E. (e.g., Bailey 1989:135; Friedman 1987:87). But the implication that Mesopotamian flood traditions postdate Genesis is almost certainly false. We did not learn, for example, that the Gilgamesh epic has Sumerian roots.

Sumerian myth includes a deluge, but the clay tablets so far recovered present only a fragmentary account. This much we do know: Xiusudra (Ziusudra) found favor with the gods. He was spared, therefore, along with at least some animals, via a ship that survived a week-long flood that wiped out humankind. The sun god greeted Xiusudra as he opened the hatch. Xiusudra then sacrificed some animals, whereupon the gods made him immortal.

Tablet fragments bearing this story are difficult to date. Sumerians, however, divided their history into two periods - ante-diluvial and post-diluvial. The Sumerian King list details ante- and post-flood events. King list tablets date between about 2120 B.C.E. and 2065 B.C.E. (Dundes 1988:57), suggesting that the written record of Xiusudra's flood is at least that old. Tablets relating the first (ca. 1844 1505 B.C.E.) and second (ca. 1702-1682 B.C.E., or ca 1582-1562 B.C.E.) Babylonian traditions are only slightly younger (Dundes 1988:54-55).

The best scholarship indicates that the earliest Mesopotamian flood myth writings pre-date Genesis, some by over one thousand years. There is widespread agreement among authentic archaeologists and biblical scholars - almost certainly the biblical flood accounts derived from Mesopotamian mythology (independent origins or a common source are not ruled out). Indeed, as the Bible records, the proto-Hebrews (Abraham) allegedly immigrated from Mesopotamia (Ur of the Chaldees), and later some Israelites spent time in Babylonian captivity.

"Incredible" also dwelled on the worldwide distribution of flood myths - proof, they claim, of biblical accuracy. Hundreds of traditional societies do (did) have flood stories. But, after displaying a world map showing the distribution, the program did not examine any. To do so would have exposed a glaring discrepancy. Those left uninfluenced by Christian missionaries stray widely from the biblical account. Some are so disparate that the only resemblance is a flood, and not always a global one (see, e.g., Dundes 1989; Bailey 1989:5-10).

Also, flood myths in a region are often similar (e.g., the Near East), indicating multi-regional origins. Moreover, The Flood was the ultimate cataclysmic event. Surely most Noachian descendants would have preserved some recognizable trace of it. But hundreds of societies do (did) not have flood myths of any kind. What are we to make of this? Absence, regional similarities, and diversity lean heavily toward independent origins. Contrary to "Incredible," a single historical event cannot account for world flood myths. If historical roots are suspected, local catastrophic flooding provides the most plausible alternative (e.g., Bailey 1989).

Various "experts" touted (in little detail) ancient documents that supposedly corroborate Noah's flood. I will discuss one; Bailey (1989) dispenses with the others. A Dr. Rodney Vleit ("professor of cultural studies") claimed that Berosus, a Babylonian chronicler, "visited the site about 475 B.C.E., where he wrote that the ark was quite visible." Vleit avoided identifying the "site" as Mt. Ararat - the program had by now conditioned the audience to make that connection - no doubt because Berosus did not write that he visited Mt. Ararat, or any place near it. And there is more.

Continued in Section III
Yaw 12 years ago

Professing to be wise, they became fools. Biblical knowledge is divine and cannot be grasped by the minds of the fallen like yours without the help of the Holy Spirit just as no sophisticated human mind can understand how the ...
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Professing to be wise, they became fools. Biblical knowledge is divine and cannot be grasped by the minds of the fallen like yours without the help of the Holy Spirit just as no sophisticated human mind can understand how the universe is so orderly. By far, The bible has been spot on on science when it took your so called scientists millenniums to come to the same conclusion (example: Job 26:7 says God hangs the earth on nothing. Isaiah 40:22 said the earth was round.) Maybe we can start a conversation when you are able to tell me who wrote the digital information contained in DNA or where our consciences come from.

C.Y. ANDY-K 12 years ago

My friend, the only foolishness in sight is that being expressed by you.

When uninformed Africans like you, who have barely just become literate, dare to challenge the knowledge system civilised people had spent donkey ye ...
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My friend, the only foolishness in sight is that being expressed by you.

When uninformed Africans like you, who have barely just become literate, dare to challenge the knowledge system civilised people had spent donkey years of research to unveil, I only shake my head in despair!

Can you do yourself some favour by googling for the Gilgamesh Epic, for instance? Or, you mind is too closed by divine powers (or is it Indian Powers:-)?) to even try that?

Andy-K
Yaw 12 years ago

Angry much? your comment shows how uneducated you are. you gave no information whatsoever in your comment. No sources at all. Nothing other than asking me to google something without even stating how it relates to the argumen ...
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Angry much? your comment shows how uneducated you are. you gave no information whatsoever in your comment. No sources at all. Nothing other than asking me to google something without even stating how it relates to the argument we are having. Sure that's a sign you are very educated. Present your argument here for all to see. Its ludicrous for YOU to call me uneducated. Look in the mirror
Yaw 12 years ago

And concerning your Gilgamesh trash, did you think about the fact that it may have been copied from ancient hebrew texts due to some inconsistencies? for example Gilgamesh "waves the slicing iron of his father" referring to a ...
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And concerning your Gilgamesh trash, did you think about the fact that it may have been copied from ancient hebrew texts due to some inconsistencies? for example Gilgamesh "waves the slicing iron of his father" referring to a forged sword, technology that did not exist at the time of genesis. Although there are a number of superficial similarities between the accounts, the vast majority of similarities would be expected to be found in any ancient flood account. Only two similarities stand out as being unique - landing of the boats on a mountain and the use of birds to determine when the flood subsided. However, both of these similarities differ in important details. In addition, there are great differences in the timing of each of the flood accounts and the nature of the vessels. Why these details would be so drastically changed is a problem for those who claim that the Genesis flood was derived from the Epic of Gilgamesh.
There are a couple possible explanations for the existence of multiple ancient flood accounts.
The possible explanation is that the flood was a real event in the history of mankind that was passed down through the generations of different cultures. If so, the Gilgamesh account seems to have undergone some rather radical transformations. The story is a rather silly myth that bears little resemblance to reality. In contrast, the Genesis account is a logical, seemingly factual account of a historical event. It lacks the obvious mythological aspects of the Gilgamesh epic.
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

The story is a rather silly myth that bears little resemblance to reality. In contrast,

DANIEL IN THE LIONS DEN. THREE HEBREW BOYS IN A FURNACE, JONAH IN THE BELLY OF A FISH FOR THREE DAYS ETC. THESE ARE NOT SILLY MYTHS TH ...
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The story is a rather silly myth that bears little resemblance to reality. In contrast,

DANIEL IN THE LIONS DEN. THREE HEBREW BOYS IN A FURNACE, JONAH IN THE BELLY OF A FISH FOR THREE DAYS ETC. THESE ARE NOT SILLY MYTHS THAT BEAR NO REALITY TO REALITY? WHAT MOSES PARTING THE RED SEA? WHAT ABOUT ELIJAH RIDING A CHARIOT TO THE SKIES? AHAHAHAHA! TALIKNG ABOUT SILLY MYTHS?

the Genesis account is a logical,

NOAH AND HIS FAMILY LOOKING AROUND THE GLOBE FOR OVER 3 MILLION SPECIES OF ANIMALS FOR A BOAT? THIS IS LOGICAL? IN WHAT WAY? YOU MUST BE DRUNK ON FAITH.

seemingly factual account of a historical event. It lacks the obvious mythological aspects of the Gilgamesh epic

HAHAHAHA! MYTHS ARE BELIEVED ONLY BY THE FAITHFUL BCOS MYTHS ARE UNREASONABLE. THERE ARE MILLIONS OF SPECIES OF INSECTS. HOW DID NOAH COLLECT ALL OF THEM? THIS IS MYTHOLOGY IN EVERY WAY YOU LOOK AT IT.
spiritual not religious 12 years ago

Well they have deeper meanings in a true spititual sense, Noah Ark is the human body with the two energies male & female energies, the desire (male) and the emotional (female) energies or if you like the yin and yang of the E ...
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Well they have deeper meanings in a true spititual sense, Noah Ark is the human body with the two energies male & female energies, the desire (male) and the emotional (female) energies or if you like the yin and yang of the Eastern teachings. Every human being has these depending on what they incarnate in a body as. Yes you are right Noah could not have all the male & female of all the 8,400,000 species of mienrals, plant, reptile, animal & human equalling 16,800,000 species on board the vessel 50 cubits long (5,400 feet approx) use google to convert cubits into feet and you would see that this cannot hold on the physical plane but the information on its true meeting is there if you look deeper.

Same with the Shadrach. ,meshack & Abednego stories, these means 3 lower energies with the physical body and the 3 other subtle bodies within any human being , the fire signifies purification. so if you some of the lower energies like overuse of the sex centre, emotions (heart centre), imperfect nourishment (navel centre) ;like power, materialism etc when they are purified, the son of man (soul or God self) within will awake. All humans will experience this in time. The jonah & the whale story happens in the navel chakra - same story is in the hindu scriptures -in fact this was taken from the Vedas and put in the bible. There is a deeper meaning to the story. Job has 7 sons (plus in consciousness and 3 daughters. in mysticism it means 7 centres minus 3 daughters (reduction in consciousness) so he was stationed in the heart centre.The story basically consolidates in level of consciousness in the heart chakra. This is easily understood if you know the functions of the chakras within any human being. basically the God you seek resides within, it is not Jesus or a person. it is a dynamic power . All the scriptures in the world & christs who have visited the planet have said " the kingdom is within" including Jesus yet see Africans especially flock to a building on Sunday to find what can ONLY be found within, shame. They just dont have the secret to open the single eye (matt 6:22) which Jesus talks about. This is same as the 3rd eye in the Eastern spiritual teachings. I rest my case.
C.Y. ANDY-K 12 years ago

Yaw,

First, it is often a waste of time engaging in exchanges with your kind. Your comment on the Gilgamesh Epic is enough proof that we are dealing with a religious nut to whom even seeing is believing is not enough proof ...
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Yaw,

First, it is often a waste of time engaging in exchanges with your kind. Your comment on the Gilgamesh Epic is enough proof that we are dealing with a religious nut to whom even seeing is believing is not enough proof if it contradicts their held beliefs. Yes, so those would-be Inquisitors of Galileo also looked into the telescope he invented, saw the moon and stars at closer range and proclaimed that Galileo had trickishly drawn those images into the telescopic glass! Phew! You're not much different from, with your line of reasoning! Look, the Jews were just a footnote in ancient history, and they simply plagiarised the myths of other people were a part of over a period time as their own. Even the Old Testament is very, very young compared to the Sumerian civilisation, so how could their myths be taken from much younger Hebrew sources? I shall deal with the two sources in Part IV.

Secondly, as you'd read in the first part of the article, I clearly stated that I wouldn't tolerate anyone coming to abuse me by heart, esp, when such a person doesn't add any knowledge to debate. You chose to the path of insult rather than attack the issues raised in my comments and the article written by a qualified Professor of Archaeology challenging some people who claimed to have undertaken an archaeological expedition and discovered remnants of the ark.

Andy-K
master 12 years ago

Andy-K.
It is often quite annoying when people like you behave they are more intelligent than those who believe in the Bible. What you forget is that believing in the Bible takes wisdom of the highest order.

That gibberis ...
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Andy-K.
It is often quite annoying when people like you behave they are more intelligent than those who believe in the Bible. What you forget is that believing in the Bible takes wisdom of the highest order.

That gibberish you put out there does it negate the fact that through the Bible many who would have been alcoholic today are living a decent lives taking care of their children. That, that man who would run after that young lady leaving his wife and young children stayed in the marriage. That, many of us would have turned out to be way ward children but through Sunday school we somehow avoided escaped the entrapments of adolescence.

How does that crap you've put out there negate the fact that the Bible talks about love, peace, joy, forgiveness, frugality and prodigalism. What about the bible admonishing us to seek wisdom, working hard and respecting rulers.

What about the fact when science fails, in that there is no scientific solution to hate, wickedness and most social ills, the bible is our only solution.

You can dedicate your life to make the bible sound stupid but you are up againt it. You must as well spend some of your free time researching into the end of those who made it their goal to disprove the bible.

God could have caused to prove everything in the bible but would have been an impossible book. It is only a supreme God who can cause such a universal and timeless book to be written.

So, hold your guns brother. There are so many things in the bible that you can disprove scientifically or otherwise. That in itself is the power of the bible. It is not a scientific book because that would have biased it. It is a book for the ordinary person, a professor of particle physics or a neurosurgeon or a bicycle repairer. When we put away the clout of our degrees and status and take the form of fallible, mortal flesh and blood then the bible becomes a meaningful book of inspiration, wisdom and spiritual tool to us.

So keep up your good work. If there is God (I believe there is) then we shall all answer to Him one day.
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

It is often quite annoying when people like you behave they are more intelligent than those who believe in the Bible.

WE SHOULD USE THE SAME STANDARD BY WHICH WE JUDGE OTHER RELIGIONS TO JUDGE THE BIBLE. THERE IS NOTHING W ...
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It is often quite annoying when people like you behave they are more intelligent than those who believe in the Bible.

WE SHOULD USE THE SAME STANDARD BY WHICH WE JUDGE OTHER RELIGIONS TO JUDGE THE BIBLE. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS. YOU WANT A DIFFERENT STANDARD?

What you forget is that believing in the Bible takes wisdom of the highest order.

IN WHAT WAY? IT IS NOT DIFFERENT FROM OTHER RELIGIOUS BOOKS. IT IS A RELIGIOUS PHILOSOPHY LIKE OTHERS. THERE ARE SMART PEOPLE AND DUMB PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE. IT DOES NOT TAKE ANY INTELLIGENCE. IT TAKES FAITH.

through the Bible many who would have been alcoholic today are living a decent lives taking care of their children.

MILLIONS HAVE DONE THAT WITHOUT THE BIBLE. YOU CAN SAY THE SAME ABOUT ISLAM, BUDDHISM AND HINDUISM. DOES IT MAKE THEIR GOSPELS INFALLIBLE? DOES IT MAKE THE BIBLE INFALLIBLE? NOOO.

That, that man who would run after that young lady leaving his wife and young children stayed in the marriage.

SAME BIBLE WAS USED FOR THE SLAVE TRADE, THE INQUISISTION AND MANY ATROCITIES. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THAT?
WHAT ABOUT APARTHEID? READ THE HISTORY OF CHRISTIANITY IN EUROPE.

That, many of us would have turned out to be way ward children but through Sunday school we somehow avoided escaped the entrapments of adolescence.

THE PEOPLE OF SWEDEN, NORWAY AND FINLAND ARE SOME OF THE MOST PEACEFUL AND PROSPEROUS ON EARTH. THEY PRACTICALLY DONT BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE, BUT THEY ARE ALRIGHT. THEIR CHILDREN ARE OK. THEY ARE NOT AS CORRUPT AS CHRISTIAN GHANAIANS AND NIGERIANS. PLEASE SPARE US !

How does that crap you've put out there negate the fact that the Bible talks about love, peace, joy, forgiveness, frugality and prodigalism.

DOES THAT MAKE NOAH'S FLOOD TRUE? DOES IT MEAN WE SHOULD NOT QUESTION THE BIBLE LIKE WE QUESTION OTHER BOOKS? THE BIBLE HAS BEEN USED FOR GOOD AND ALSO FOR A LOT OF BAD.

What about the bible admonishing us to seek wisdom, working hard and respecting rulers.

ALL RELIGIOUS BOOKS DO THAT. OUR KWAKU ANANSE STORIES DO THE SAME, BUT THEY ARE STILL STORIES. IF NOAH'S STORY IS A MYTH , THERE IS NOTHING WRONG SAYING SO.

there is no scientific solution to hate, wickedness and most social ills, the bible is our only solution.

THE BIBLE IS NOT THE SOLUTION EITHER. THE BIBLE HAS BEEN USE THROUGHOUT HISTORY TO COMMIT THE MOST HORRIBLE ATROCITIES. IT HAS ALSO BEEN USED FOR GOOD. PLS LOOK BOTH WAYS.

You must as well spend some of your free time researching into the end of those who made it their goal to disprove the bible.

LOOK, IN MOST PART OF THE EDUCATED WORLD, THE BIBLE IS NOT BELIEVED. THROUGHOUT EUROPE, JAPAN AND CANADA, THE BIBLE IS NOT BELIEVED. THE BLIND BELIEF IS IN THE THIRD WORLD.

It is only a supreme God who can cause such a universal and timeless book to be written.

JUST LIKE THE KORAN AND THE SCRIPTURES OF HINDUISM AND BUDDHISM? OR THOSE ONES WERE NOT INSPIRED BY GOD? REMEBER THAT HINDUSIM IS OLDER THAN CHRSITIANITY.

It is not a scientific book because that would have biased it.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT SCIENCE. IT IS ABOUT REASON.WHY ACCEPT SOMETHING THAT MAKES NO SENSE. IN TIGARI, IF IT MAKES NO SENSE YOU ARE ASKED TO REJECT IT, BUT IF IT MAKES NO SENSE IN THE BIBLE YOU ARE ASKED TO ACCEPT IT BY FAITH. IT SMARKS OF HYPOCRISY AND DOUBLE STANDARD.

So keep up your good work. If there is God (I believe there is) then we shall all answer to Him one day

JUST LIKE THE HINDUS, SIKHS, BUDDHISTS AND VOUDOUN. O NO! WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER RELIGIONS, THEY ARE NOT OF GOD. ONLY YOUR BIBLE IS OF GOD. I SMELL HYPOCRISY.
master 12 years ago

Havn't you repeated yourself enough. Who is comapring the Bible to any other book? Where is the proof that the Bible was used for the slave trade? Which chapter or verse in the Bible commands slave trading? And you are talkin ...
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Havn't you repeated yourself enough. Who is comapring the Bible to any other book? Where is the proof that the Bible was used for the slave trade? Which chapter or verse in the Bible commands slave trading? And you are talking about myth.

I never mentioned any other religion in my write up but you keep referring to other religions and smelling hypocrisy, what is your problem?

No! absolutely not, the bible has been used to commit attrocities. People who associate themselves with the have committed atrocites. But the bible is a free book and anyine can associate themselves with it. Like you, just because you don't the bible can use it to commit attrocities to give it a bad name. The fact remains though the never aproves any of the atrocities you're talking about.

Actually, I shouldn't bother, you have an agenda. Bye
C.Y. ANDY-K 12 years ago

Master,

I am giving credit to Nana Manu for doing such a splendid job deconstructing your argumentation by tagging my response to his heading in response to you. It seems that has got your goat and you couldn't help becomi ...
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Master,

I am giving credit to Nana Manu for doing such a splendid job deconstructing your argumentation by tagging my response to his heading in response to you. It seems that has got your goat and you couldn't help becoming irate at him. But patience, my good man, for more of such provocation is coming.

I never claimed to be more intelligent than anyone who believes in the Bible, the Qu'ran, the Book of Mormons,the Sankrit, Tigare, etc. All I know is that I have been called a fool too many times for questioning what they believe in which I found very questionable as even a small child. And I am now pissed, very pissed and, is out to challenge them publicly to prove to me what made me a fool and they super nerds, with super intelligence and intuition to read, see, hear and understand certain things better than me! For, methinks, in the quest to lesson my foolishness and ignorance, I have come across some humongous information which completely negates the veracity of what they believe in and proclaim to be the truth, nothing but the truth! And I want the whole world to know that too! They have been lying to us! And, I might be a fool but they seem to be idiots if they cannot comprehend such glaring facts unearthed by hundreds of years of study, research and learning by the makers of modern civilisation!

One of such information is the "crap" I have put out here: that the Noah flood story in the Bible and in the Qur'an is nothing but a myth built on some previously existing flood myths. In other words, the story was plagiarised from earlier civilisations, some of which had even ceased to exist before the Hebrews came into history as a tiny nation.

Now, that's not the only myth [and contradictions] I discovered in the Bible. I discovered a lot with roots in earlier religions and stories that conflict with each other, e.g., the genealogies of Jesus according to Luke and Matthew making him a descendant of two different brothers. Phew! When I am finished with this Noah flood myth, I shall take up another again: the virgin birth of Jesus, since we are in the Christmas season again.

Andy-K

master 12 years ago

hahaaaaa. becoming irate? for the where. i am rather amused about your johnny just come. it seems you just chanced upon these writtings. well for your info it's been there since they were written and you know when. you think ...
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hahaaaaa. becoming irate? for the where. i am rather amused about your johnny just come. it seems you just chanced upon these writtings. well for your info it's been there since they were written and you know when. you think the bible is a myth but what you believe in is not a myth. how funny! maybe the scripture in the bible: "having not retain God in their mind, God gave them up to reprobate mind...." is what is manifesting in you guys.

Once again, keep up the good work. copy more of such crap and paste them here. You will be handsomly rewarded once you finish.

I can actually do a better job than you're doing by debunking the so called biblical myhts. there are definately no scientific basis out there but then that is the power of God and the bible. It is meant to be like that so that no one takes pride by believing in it. you get the point? So your writtings means nothing to any true believer. I mean we've heard these arguments a million times before. If you're honest to yourself your own myth busters often do not agree to what the truth is so are you talking about?

There is a song that keeps popping into my mind: IT'S GOOD LIFE, IT'S HIGH LIFE, LIVE THIS KIND OF LIFE.

Ah sweet. I live that kind life. Whether it is based on myths or not I know it is a good life. Period.
Yaw 12 years ago

the earliest text of the gilgamesh epic was dated to 18th century bc. the noah story was said to have happened before 3000 bc. how do you prove to me the gilgamesh epic happened first. you have no proof of that right? how abo ...
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the earliest text of the gilgamesh epic was dated to 18th century bc. the noah story was said to have happened before 3000 bc. how do you prove to me the gilgamesh epic happened first. you have no proof of that right? how about the blade forging technology i mentioned thats contained in the epic? could it have happened way before the Hebrew versions? the answer is no. but i'm still waiting for proof that the gilgamesh epic happened first
master 12 years ago

I think you've been smoking something very bad. Can't you get it that the bible is not for a proof? haba! Read proper history man!

Keep believing in your own myths. Me, after hard day work as a medical reseacher, I need a ...
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I think you've been smoking something very bad. Can't you get it that the bible is not for a proof? haba! Read proper history man!

Keep believing in your own myths. Me, after hard day work as a medical reseacher, I need another dose of my Bible reading. Today's reading is Prov 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Have a good time my friend.....
Yaw 12 years ago

you still didnt tell me who wrote the digital information in DNA or where consciences and moral standards come from Mr. Researcher. you still havent shown proof that Gilgamesh epic happened before the floods of the Bible.you ...
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you still didnt tell me who wrote the digital information in DNA or where consciences and moral standards come from Mr. Researcher. you still havent shown proof that Gilgamesh epic happened before the floods of the Bible.you have avoided my claim that iron weaponry was not known technology in the days of noah so noah's story is reasonably the elder story. you've said nothing other than the copy and paste of your article you are doing.
You claim to be learned and said i was barely educated or something of that sort without the slightest idea of who i am. i guess foolish assumptions are also taught by your trusted archaeologist who's work you deem irrefutable.
Its ok to tell me i'm believing in something non existent. but you have to give me something to believe in that seems more reasonable than what i had. Isn't it how science works?
And since we are all assuming, can i assume you are a forty year old failure trying to shove your beliefs down the throat of africans instead of laying your points and having people see for themselves?
I'm disappointed that you were given space on this blog. my 10 year old would have used this space better
C.Y. ANDY-K 12 years ago

Namesake Yaw and Master, I have no intention of being derailed into a discussion that leads to no where. I really don't have the time for that. That's why I have ignored your diversionary queries. What's DNA got to this with ...
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Namesake Yaw and Master, I have no intention of being derailed into a discussion that leads to no where. I really don't have the time for that. That's why I have ignored your diversionary queries. What's DNA got to this with flood story, except proof that all humanity originated from Africa, instead of from some Middle Eastern Hebrews? In fact, the origins of languages has also just been traced to Africa, instead of to some Tower of Babel! One can now read all about such advances in learning on the Internet.

You see, I come from the coast and have behind me over 500 years of association with the white people who brought us Christianity. In fact, great, great grand parents gave them land and/or permission to build the first missionary schools and churches on. As for the slave fort built at Keta, it was built under duress. And when it comes to embracing Christianity, only the slave descents could claim precedence. I grew up in the midst of a multitude of books some of you only heard of. So, stop attempting to denigrate me and rather try to debunk the article. So far, you have just shown yourselves to be in denial mode.

Await my further comments in Part IV. You should have read Part 1 devoted solely to my own comments. Shall re-post it here.

Andy-K
C.Y. ANDY-K 12 years ago

Below is Part 1 of the series. It seems many people haven't read it and so can't understand where this heading to. It was posted earlier under my name.

Are Africans descendants of Jews (Noah) too?

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Below is Part 1 of the series. It seems many people haven't read it and so can't understand where this heading to. It was posted earlier under my name.

Are Africans descendants of Jews (Noah) too?

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Folks,

This is something I wrote way back in Sept. 1997 during a debate generated on an African-American created forum about the genealogy or descent of black people, the complexion of Jesus, some blacks (African-Americans and the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia) claiming to be Jews/Israelites, or whatever. In view of the current deteriorating situation on the God front, I have decided to raise these issues again, as I promised then to tackle some of the questions and issues raised herein in the future. It has taken more years than I even anticipated. We have since the 1990s been swamped with all kinds of religious and intellectual charlatans who have made these claims their articles of faith with which they are hoodwinking the ignorant masses, both lettered and unlettered. This is what I wrote then and still just as valid as when I wrote it.

Even though I could have written something else, I just posed some questions here, pointed a finger here and there to mark some paths for clearing up later. This may therefore appear as another muddle to some people, especially those I believe are victims of crooked thinking.

As you all know by now, according to Christian mythology, God destroyed all living creatures on earth with the exception of those saved by Noah and his family on the Ark.

Of course, the fishes and creatures living in water could be said to be exceptions too, since the flood waters could not be said to have drown them! It did not stop some creationists from claiming that they were also drowned too. The earth, the story goes on, was then re-populated by the humans and the flora and fauna from the Ark. It therefore follows that we Africans are also descendants of the sons and the wives of the three children of Noah - Shem, Ham and Japheth - assuming intermarriages between the off-springs of the children of these three brothers, instead of sister/brother conjugal relations and incest proper, both not uncommon in those days.

For a long time, Christians had held that we black Africans (not only the ancient Egyptians, Berbers and others identified as Hamites) are descendants of Canaan, the 4th and youngest son of Ham. Canaan was reportedly cursed by Noah, when he awoke from his drunken stupor, got to know that Ham had come to see him lying naked and told his brothers, who went backwards into his tent and covered his nakedness. This curse put on Canaan [and his descendants] for some unexplainable reason, because he was not the one who saw Noah naked, was that he would become a slave to his brothers, serving them, drawer of water and hewer of rocks, as recorded in the Bible. Poor Canaan! That was before the rule about sons not bearing the sins of their fathers was invented, I suppose. Then, this "trokosi" logic could be said to make sense! (Trokosi - vestal virginship - is a system of enslavement of innocent girls by some fetish houses for offences caused by relations, found up to today at parts of Ghana, Togo and Benin Republic).

Hmmm! Anyway, things might have been mightily bad in those riotous days before the deluge, with a dangerous and cursing, drunken-bolt (an alcoholic) like Noah being the only person to find favour with the Good Lord. Not quite a pleasing role model for our children in these trying times of alcoholism and use of drugs. It is bad enough to curse people even if curses don't work. That shall be the high moral value to be adhered to by all, if you are in my Moral Brigade. It can be broken at your own peril, of course.:-)

Now, having digressed a bit, the fact that Cush, the eldest son of Ham, was the one who allegedly settled in the area of upper Egypt and spreading to east and north Africa and, should be regarded as the father of the Hamites in Africa was smugly ignored in the bid to find a religious justification and moralization for the enslavement of black or negroid Africans, who, by the way, are not Hamitic. Yet, even the Dutch Reformed Church used same claims to justify Apartheid, long after the Abolitionists had debunked these claims.

Perhaps, it can be argued that black Africans are not Cushite. Granted! But they are not descendants of Canaan either, by biblical accounts. Ancient Canaanites were Semitic (not negroid) and their home region is exactly the land of Canaan allegedly promised to the Israelites by their vengeance seeking god, Yahweh. We all know where that region is, don't we? It is today's Palestine from which Israel was carved out after WWII, some say in another fulfilment of biblical prophecy and promise. The Canaanites were conquered and largely absorbed by the invading and marauding Jews. Do people want us to believe that some ran away by magically changing their complexion and turned up in Africa as black Africans?

This internal examination of the Bible leaves one wondering where we black Africans descended from? From whom in the Bible, if neither Cush nor Canaan? Dear reader, the truth is that we Africans are not the descendants of any of Noah's children, simply because the flood story is a myth! No God ever destroyed living things on the earth with a flood. I have already posted an article tracing the origins of the myth already [to the Gilgamesh Epic, for instance].

I intend to, if time permits, further deepen that with an examination of the two contradictory flood stories in Genesis mentioned in the article. But it may be necessary to trace the origin of the story of the family tree of man too later - anything from next week to many years from today. This is to show how the Jews simply took over what the ancient Egyptians (Kemetians) had formulated as the history of the world, with names like Kush (Cush) for the people of upper Egypt down to across the border with the Sudan, otherwise known as Nubia, long, long before it entered into Jewish mythology. The Jews simply stood history up-side down, placing themselves on top.

Some of us have been made aware that the Jews did not even have a word for "history" and borrowed the word "historia" from the Greeks. The Greeks, of course, got the Egyptian priest Manetho, (and certainly other priests of the areas they conquered in the Middle East, see The Cambridge History of Africa, Vol. 2:150-3), to write for them the history of the known world, (and much of the knowledge of the world to be attributed to the Greeks later, see Martin Bernal's Black Athena Vol. 1 and 2). These histories were put in the great library of Alexandria. And now, must we Africans accept the Jewish accounts based on these original sources, a distortion of what was written, as that of our own history? Accounts no longer accepted as totally true by practically all of the foremost scholars of Euro-America in their higher institutions of learning?

To what level of backwardness do some Africans want us to descend [and remain], simply because they are yet to or unable to shed the abject superstition of their pagan, unlettered, uneducated, semi-educated, christo-paganist or miseducated parents? (Choose the category which fits you). Of course, there are the educated ones with all sorts of higher degrees who are also caught in the snare [and actually leading the obscurantist crusade]. We must set ourselves free from the things used to enslave our minds.

Andy C. Y. Kwawukume Bergen, Norway, Sept. 1997 Now resident in London, UK 23 Nov. 2013 cyandyk@ymail.com
master 12 years ago

I should print and read this. You Andy are something else.

I also have copy and paste that I would be serialising soon. That the 9/11 bombing was a CIA work. I have evidence trust me! hahaa. I will join you theorise consp ...
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I should print and read this. You Andy are something else.

I also have copy and paste that I would be serialising soon. That the 9/11 bombing was a CIA work. I have evidence trust me! hahaa. I will join you theorise conspiracies. Watch this space...
Yaw 12 years ago

Your family history is what is irrelevant here namesake. And know that you are not the only person who had access to a library growing up. That is also irrelevant here.
Why do you call my questions diversionary? Which one i ...
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Your family history is what is irrelevant here namesake. And know that you are not the only person who had access to a library growing up. That is also irrelevant here.
Why do you call my questions diversionary? Which one is diversionary? The one about the iron forging technology Which I'm mentioning now for the third time? Or the DNA.
You stated your mission clearly and you said you sought to de- magnify and demystify what we Christians believe to be Gods word and true in every sense. I'm sure your scientist friends would agree with me that since you seek to disprove our beliefs, you should have a replacement. One that is proven or maybe even more reasonable.

The reason I ask the DNA is that the bible is whole. There are no true parts nor false parts. If you're telling me this Noah story is false, you must also believe the creation story is false. In fact you made a comment about the Jews been a footnote to ancient civilization. So if the creation story is false in your view too, then what is true. How are we here? why is the universe so orderly? etc etc.
I could ask a million of these questions but I skipped to the one which concerns me the most and that is the DNA. Since you want to replace my set of beliefs, you must have answers to all the questions that were answered by my Bible.

Mr. Andy C K, I have all the time in the world and I will listen to you. Please take the floor.
Yaw 12 years ago

De magify. Forgive my iPhone

De magify. Forgive my iPhone
C.Y. ANDY-K 12 years ago

Yaw, I had to hint you and esp. Master about my background for you you to know that I wasn't any JJC to these things as he claimed. I come from a very educated background equal to any. Even my grandfather, who btw, was a Lodg ...
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Yaw, I had to hint you and esp. Master about my background for you you to know that I wasn't any JJC to these things as he claimed. I come from a very educated background equal to any. Even my grandfather, who btw, was a Lodge Master (he donated the the land for the old Lodge building in Keta), was already filling a white man's post as a court Registrar by the 1920s, among many other things in his life, Chief of the Native Police inclusive. When S. Africa was getting Apartheid, my father was appointed by John Holt Bartholomew as its first African Administrative Manager, with 20 whites directly under him, not to mention the scores of Africans! I shall therefore not allow myself to be insulted on Ghanaweb by ignorant and superstitious people who are probably the first educated graduates in their villages, not to mention families!

Myself? I had completed reading the NT and much of the OT before I left Middle School form 3 to secondary schl. Before I got my O'L results, I had completed reading the whole Bible; in fact, the Protestant and the Catholic versions and noted the differences. And that wasn't the only thing I was cramming. I had read the Sanskrit too, which I found among the magic books my ex-magician uncle locked up and we broke the lock eventually.

Before I went to primary class one, I already knew about and understand the rudiments of Gondwanaland, continental drift, formation of mountains and valleys, precipitation, etc., etc. And when Yuri Gagarin came from space and said "Nyet" to the question whether he saw God there, I also felt the reverberations. The qs I am asking and the issues being raised are the same since I came back from school (class 1) and took on my mother as to the veracity of what the teacher said about a god being responsible for rain to fall, whereas I had already learned from my senior siblings and the many picture books in the house about evaporation of water bodies and condensation to cause rain to fall.

As you know, rain making in Africa is serious business, with even traditional priests devoted to that. And so this big rain caused by a god that destroyed all living things on earth was in a major league and needs further investigation. And that's what I have done and I am presenting the results, once again. That's the subject.

I can tackle the other qs you asked but don't want to be drawn into them. You know, Philosophy was my minor in Legon so. so far instance, I can go to town on both sides on the "orderly universe" claim for the existence of God, otherwise known as the Teleological Argument or Argument from Design. And if I were a Creationist, round it up with "Chaos Theory as the Ultimate Proof of Design by a Divine Being". But I won't. Maybe another day. Right now, I prefer to limit myself strictly to the subject. Since you probably did not read Part I, I had posted that one too under whether we Africans are descendants of Noah too. My answer is
a deafening Noah, sorry, I mean Nooo!:-)The Noah story in the Bible, among many others, is a myth, and thus false! That's what I'm out to draw attention to. That's what bible scholars and centuries of learning in different subjects have proven. I don't need to prove that all over again.

All the DNA data showed that humans evolved from Africa, btw.

Andy-K

Yaw 12 years ago

Sirry, it was excruciating reading your response but i endured. why do you keep giving lectures about your great grand sisters and uncles and your family?
Why does that matter? Why are you tooting your own horn? why are you ...
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Sirry, it was excruciating reading your response but i endured. why do you keep giving lectures about your great grand sisters and uncles and your family?
Why does that matter? Why are you tooting your own horn? why are you assuming that you are an intellectual and your readers are illiterate? r
You come across to me as a delusional person. you are not the most educated person on here. many readers, like myself, refuse to talk about family or educational backgrounds on here and just let our points do the talking. Speak up and quit the nonsense. you said NOTHING in your response. NOTHING!!
You talk about bible scholars and you say you read the bible cover to cover. That's the problem. The bible is not fiction and, as such, not meant to be read as one. i find it hard to respond to your comment because 95% of it is just plain irrelevant.
A word of advice: Cut out the bible scholar nonsense because in the eyes of a christian, the bible is for all to read and equally understand with the help of the Holy spirit Who is given to all who are born again. No one man understands the bible better than the next if they are all of God.

You know, your posts on here may be successful in achieving one thing and that is winning over people who are christians by name. As for those of us who are by faith, you may need to present a stronger argument than the weak stuff you've already put out. And with what i see about you, that won't be satisfying will it? knowing that with all the knowledge you claim to possess, you won over people who were already lost but not people with a strong faith.
Speaking of education, i knew the things you knew and maybe even more at the same age. I was exceptionally smart too my friend. i even went to senior secondary school at the age twelve (skipped 3 classes and still topped my classes). but it makes no sense here. all that matters here is valid points.

I usually don't do this but i'll post my email here so we can have a thorough discussion. perscat@outlook.com
Kojo Oheh 12 years ago

Anyone who wants to know more about the other side of the Bible should please google: Luciferian Liberation Front. Thanks.

Anyone who wants to know more about the other side of the Bible should please google: Luciferian Liberation Front. Thanks.
George Amanieh 12 years ago

Readers who want to know the other side of the Bible should please google: Luciferian Liberation Front. Thanks.

Readers who want to know the other side of the Bible should please google: Luciferian Liberation Front. Thanks.
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

THERE ARE OVER 8.7 MILLION SPECIES OF ANIMALS ON EARTH. HOW DID NOAH TAKE SAY 3 MILLION SPECIES ONTO THE ARK?

HOW WAS HE ABLE TO COLLECT ALL OF THEM? HOW DID HE TRANSPORT THEM FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND PLACES?

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THERE ARE OVER 8.7 MILLION SPECIES OF ANIMALS ON EARTH. HOW DID NOAH TAKE SAY 3 MILLION SPECIES ONTO THE ARK?

HOW WAS HE ABLE TO COLLECT ALL OF THEM? HOW DID HE TRANSPORT THEM FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND PLACES?

HOW DID HE FEED ALL OF THEM?

HOW LARGE WAS HIS ARK TO CONTAIN ALL THESE SPECIES?

WAS THE ARK CLIMATE CONTROLLED SO THAT POLLAR BEARS COULD BE ALRIGHT?

How can someone put in lions den survive the ordeal, and come out unharmed(Book of Daniel)", or "How can the 3 Hebrews survive the flame, and come out unharmed

ANOTHER MYTH. EVEN THE JEWS DONT BELIEVE THIS. DANIEL IN THE LIONS DEN IS JUST A MYTH. DO U KNOW ANYBODY WHO CAN DO THAT TODAY. THE GREEKS ALSO HAVE VERY FANTASTICAL STORIES LIKE JONAH'S AND THE THREE BOYS IN THE FURNACE, BUT TODAY IT IS CALLED A MYTH.

ONLY ILLITERATE SCOCIETIES IN AFRICA ND THE THIRD WORLD BELIEVE THESE MYTHS AS TRUE STORIES. EUROPEANS, JAPANESE AND OTHER EDUCATED SOCIETIIES KNOW THESE STORIES ARE NOT REAL. AT BEST, THEY ARE ALLEGORICAL.

THE FLOD OF NOAH IS A MYTH. IT IS 'TOLI'.
Yaw 12 years ago

Just as Jesus fed 5000 with a few loaves of bread, that how nature was preserved during the flood. The ways of our God Yahweh are divine and man's limited mind cannot understand.
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Just as Jesus fed 5000 with a few loaves of bread, that how nature was preserved during the flood. The ways of our God Yahweh are divine and man's limited mind cannot understand.
And before you tell me i don't make sense i believe we both know that human knowledge is limited. If you don't share that opinion then show me the boundaries of the solar system. where it starts from and ends. If you are not sure, then you do not know. then your knowledge is limited. human mind cannot grasp the idea of existence beyond space and time.
And about the bible. Do you believe in the new testament then? Do you believe in the existence of Jesus Christ? If so, then 2 Timothy 3:16 says all scripture is God breathed.And so you should believe
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

Just as Jesus fed 5000 with a few loaves of bread, that how nature was preserved during the flood.

HAHAHAHAHA! THE JEWS WHO WROTE THIS DONT EVEN BELEIVE THIS. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE JESUS DID THIS. FOR THE PAST 2000 AFTER ...
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Just as Jesus fed 5000 with a few loaves of bread, that how nature was preserved during the flood.

HAHAHAHAHA! THE JEWS WHO WROTE THIS DONT EVEN BELEIVE THIS. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE JESUS DID THIS. FOR THE PAST 2000 AFTER JESUS, WHO EKSE HAS PERORMED THE SAME MIRACLE? THERE IS NO SINGLE IOTA OF PROVE. IT IS ALL MYTH, NOT DIFFERENT FROM GREEK MYTHOLOGY.

The ways of our God Yahweh are divine and man's limited mind cannot understand.

THAT IS NO PROOF. BUDDHISTS AND HINDUS CAN SAY THE SAME THING TO COVER THEIR KWAKU ANANSE STORIES, WHEN THERE IS NO PROOF.
ALL YOU SAY IS GOD WORKD IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS AND EXPECT PEOPLE TO BELIEVE IT.

And before you tell me i don't make sense i believe we both know that human knowledge is limited.

OF COURSE HUMAN KNOWLEDGE IS LIMITED. BUT YOU CANT TELL ME YOUR GRANDMOTHER LIVED UP TO 300 YRS, AND WHEN CHALLENGED YOU SAY HUMAN KNOWLEDGE IS LIMITED. THAT ARGUMENT IS MUTE. THAT IS ILLOGICAL.

If you don't share that opinion then show me the boundaries of the solar system. where it starts from and ends.

THAT DOES NOT MEAN I DONT KNOW HUMANS CANNOT LIVE TO BE 2,000 YRS. HINDUS CAN ALSO CLAIM FANTASTICAL THINGS AND THEN SAY THE HUMAN MIND IS LIMITED. THAT IS NO PROOF, IT IS AN ESCAPE,

. Do you believe in the new testament then?

THE NT WAS COMPILED LONG AFTER CHRIST PASSED. THERE IS NO PROOF THE BOOKS WERE WRITTEN BY THEIR AUTHORS. THERE WAS NO NT UNTIL EMPEROR CONSTANTINE PUT THE DIFFERENT GOSPELS TOGETHER, IN THE WAY AND FORMAT HE WANTED. HE ELIMINATED SOME BOOKS AND INCLUDED SOME. UNTIL CONSTANTINE CAME ON THE SCENE, THERE WAS NO NT.

Do you believe in the existence of Jesus Christ?

EVEN IF JESUS WALKED THIS EARTH, THERE IS NO PROOF OF THE MIRACLES. WE CAN SAY THE SAME OF OKOMFO ANOKYE. THERE ARE MANY STORIES ABOUT ANOKYE THAT ARE FALSE. A LOT IS ADDED TO THE TRUTH. YES, OKOMFO ANOKYE LIVED. BUT DID HE PERFORM THOSE MIRACLES? THAT IS ANOTHER STORY.

DID JESUSFEED 5000 WITH 5 LOAVES OF BREAD? NO ONE HAS EVER DONE THAT IN HISTORY. IT IS NOT TRUE.
Yaw 12 years ago

Constantine did not have an influence on new testament writings my friend. the 27 New testament writings existed and were the verified subjects of writers like origen of alexandria, ignatius bishop of antioch,polycarp of smy ...
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Constantine did not have an influence on new testament writings my friend. the 27 New testament writings existed and were the verified subjects of writers like origen of alexandria, ignatius bishop of antioch,polycarp of smyrna,Justin martyr, irenaeus and many others, all of whom died before the reign of constantine. Even during the reign of constantine, christian writers like augustine of hippo used these texts and there wasnt a question then about its veracity. you don't know history.

secondly i am not going to argue about our beliefs because like i said, without divine inspiration and influence you can not understand these things. i asked you specific questions about the universe and you respond with jokes about your grandmother.

Did you know that secular historians and writers like pliny the younger, seutonius, plegan, celsus and Tacitus all wrote on jesus's existence?
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

Constantine did not have an influence on new testament writings my friend. the 27 New testament writings existed

THERE WERE FAR MORE THAN 27 BOOKS. THERE WAS NO ARRANGEMENT OF THESE BOOKS, COSTANTINE ARRANGED THEM AND CHO ...
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Constantine did not have an influence on new testament writings my friend. the 27 New testament writings existed

THERE WERE FAR MORE THAN 27 BOOKS. THERE WAS NO ARRANGEMENT OF THESE BOOKS, COSTANTINE ARRANGED THEM AND CHOSE WHICH ONES WERE INCLUDED AND WHICH ONES WERE EXCLUDED. IT WAS A POLITICAL TOOL FOR CONSTANTINE. IT WAS A WAY TO UNIFY THE SECTS UNDER HIS RULE.

Even during the reign of constantine, christian writers like augustine of hippo used these texts and there wasnt a question then about its veracity. you don't know history.

THESE BOOKS WERE WRITTEN 300 YEARS AFTER JESUS. THERE IS NO PROOF OF THE MIRACLES OF JESUS, JUST AS THERE IS NO PROOF THAT MOSES PARTED THE RED SEA. THERE IS NO PROOF THAT NOAH PUT ALL THE ANIMALS SPECIES INTO A BOAT.

without divine inspiration and influence you can not understand these things.

HAHAHAHA! IF TIGARI SAID THE SAME THING YOU WOULD LAUGH AT THEM. WITHOUT DIVINE INSPIRATION YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT TIGARI IS THE TRUTH. NO LOGIC, NO REASONING, JUST DIVINE INSPIRATION. .

i asked you specific questions about the universe and you respond with jokes about your grandmother.

I DONT KNOW HOW THE UNIVERSE CAME ABOUT. BUT I KNOW THE EGYPTIAN, HINDU AND GENESIS ACCOUNTS OF CREATION ARE ALL SENESELSS MYTHS. NOAH'S ARK IS A MYTH.

Did you know that secular historians and writers like pliny the younger, seutonius, plegan, celsus and Tacitus all wrote on jesus's existence?

DID THEY SAY HE FED 5000 WITH 5 LOAVES OF BREAD? OKOMFO ANOKYE WAS A REAL PERSON BUT THE MIRACLES HE PERFORMED ARE A NOTHER THING. WAS ANOKYE REALLY GOING TO BRING A CURE FOR DEATH? OR I HAVE TO ACCEPT IT BASED ON FAITH, OR I NEED DIVINE EDIFICATION TO SEE THE TRUTH?

THE HEBREWS DONT HAVE MONOPOLY OF MYTHS, ALL CULTURES HAVE THEM. BUT FAITH MAKES MANY BLIND TO THE TRUTH. THEY SEE THEIR MYTH AS TRUTH AND THE MYTH OF OTHER PEOPLE AS MYTH.
HOWEVER, THE TRUTH IS ALL MYTH IS JUST MYTH.
Wofa Yaw 12 years ago

i am a christian but i do agree with you. there is hypocrisy here. we convert people by apealing tp thier reason. But when it comes to us reasoning we fall on faith. There are some thing smy religion cannot answer. It is bett ...
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i am a christian but i do agree with you. there is hypocrisy here. we convert people by apealing tp thier reason. But when it comes to us reasoning we fall on faith. There are some thing smy religion cannot answer. It is better to accept that we do not know.
Yaw 12 years ago

Faith is a part of our existence. there is nothing the bible cannot explain that a scientist can. Absolutely nothing. so if you want to believe in science, just no it's faith based too. and how can you call yourself a christi ...
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Faith is a part of our existence. there is nothing the bible cannot explain that a scientist can. Absolutely nothing. so if you want to believe in science, just no it's faith based too. and how can you call yourself a christian and say the bible does not have all the answers. perhaps you should read it and start from 2nd Timothy 3:16 where it talks about the sufficiency of scripture. And at which point in the life of Jesus did he ever agree that scripture wasnt enough whenever he was confronted by the pharisees or Sadducees or even the scribes? Never. Because everything is contained in the scripture. That being said, you are a christian by name and not by faith.
Uhuru 12 years ago

the Bible does not have all the answers. Lets be honest. Nana, you are brilliant.

the Bible does not have all the answers. Lets be honest. Nana, you are brilliant.
Francis 12 years ago

Yes, I agree with. That was why God hid Himself in a Simple man Jesus that even the professors of the Torah could not recognize him. He only reveals Himself to little babes. So if people like CY Andy K are seeking God through ...
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Yes, I agree with. That was why God hid Himself in a Simple man Jesus that even the professors of the Torah could not recognize him. He only reveals Himself to little babes. So if people like CY Andy K are seeking God through philosophy, they won't find him because He is simply veiled in Christ Jesus and only those who are not even seeking Him will find Him.
Shalom Brother Yaw.
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

That was why God hid Himself in a Simple man Jesus that even the professors of the Torah could not recognize him.

THE NOAH STORY DOES NOT ADD UP. WE JUDGE THIS STORY THE SAME WAY WE JUDGE GREEK MYTHOLODY. THIS STORY DOES N ...
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That was why God hid Himself in a Simple man Jesus that even the professors of the Torah could not recognize him.

THE NOAH STORY DOES NOT ADD UP. WE JUDGE THIS STORY THE SAME WAY WE JUDGE GREEK MYTHOLODY. THIS STORY DOES NOT ADD UP.

He only reveals Himself to little babes.

STOP THE EVASION. THE FLOOD STORY WAS THERE BEFORE THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN. THE JEWS STOLE THE STORY FROM THE GILGAMESH EPIC.

So if people like CY Andy K are seeking God through philosophy,

YOUR POINT IS JUST ACCEPT IT ON FAITH, NO REASONING, NO THINKING. THEN YOU CAN ACCEPT BUDDHISM AND HINDUISN AND SIKHISM THE SAME WAY. THE RELIGION MAKES NO SENSE BUT JUST ACCEPT IT ON FAITH?

they won't find him because He is simply veiled in Christ Jesus and only those who are not even seeking Him will find Him.

SAME CAN BE SAID OF BUDDHA. YOU MAKE NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. JUST ACCEPT SOMETHING ON FAITH. SO CAN I ACCEPT TIGARI ON FAITH?

THE HYPOCRISY IS THAT YOU WOULD NOT ALLOW OTHERS TO WORSHIP TIGARI BASED SOLEY ON FAITH. YOU WOULD TRY TO CONVERT THEM BASED ON REASON.
Yaw 12 years ago

Your argument does not hold sir. If you do not believe in the creation story because it is faith based, then you should not believe in any other theory be it evolution or big bang because all of them are faith based. There is ...
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Your argument does not hold sir. If you do not believe in the creation story because it is faith based, then you should not believe in any other theory be it evolution or big bang because all of them are faith based. There is no evidence of a big bang and neither is evolution proven. there is no evidence of a creature evolving into another creature altogether as the theory of evolution would have you believe. and don't mention the beaks of birds changing as an example because they still are birds. There is no evidence of man evolving from apes or whatever. if you have evidence, please post it here for the wold to see. if not then you are also accepting it on FAITH
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

If you do not believe in the creation story because it is faith based,

THERE ARE MANY CREATION STORIES. WHICH ONE DO I BELIEVE? I DONT BELIEVE IN THE HINDU NOR EGYPTIAN NOR HEBREW CREATION STORIES. THEY ARE ALL FAITH BA ...
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If you do not believe in the creation story because it is faith based,

THERE ARE MANY CREATION STORIES. WHICH ONE DO I BELIEVE? I DONT BELIEVE IN THE HINDU NOR EGYPTIAN NOR HEBREW CREATION STORIES. THEY ARE ALL FAITH BASED AND MAKE NO SENSE.

There is no evidence of a big bang and neither is evolution proven.

I NEVER MENTIONED EVOLUTION. I AM NOT AN EVOLUTIONISTS. I RESPECT THOSE WHO SAY THEY DONT KNOW THAT THOSE WHO MAKE UP STORIES.

THE EGYPTIAN HAVE THEIR STORY ABOUT HOW RA CREATED THE WORLD. I DONT BELIEVE IT BECAUSE IT MAKES NO SENSE.

THE HINDUS HAVE THEIR CREATION STORY, IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE AND I SONT ACCEPT IT BASED ON FAITH.

THE GENESIS CRATION STORY AND NOAH'S ARK STORY MAKES NO SENSE AND I DONT BELEIVE IT. IT IS MYTHOLOGY LIKE THE OTHER STORIES BY THE BABYLONIANS, SUMERIANS, GREEKS AND EGYPTIANS.

IT IS ALL MYTHOLOGY, MYTHOLOGY, MYTHOLOGY.
Kaakeeku 12 years ago

Except response.People go and study all kinds of things and take everything scientist have said as the truth. Who were those Referees he quoted? Is he trying to say their research was 100% correct?
Lack of knowledge my peopl ...
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Except response.People go and study all kinds of things and take everything scientist have said as the truth. Who were those Referees he quoted? Is he trying to say their research was 100% correct?
Lack of knowledge my people are destroyed and trapped into mental slavery.
Concerned people 12 years ago

Yaw, your so-called wisdom and the likes of you in your country and perhaps the African continent are part of the reasons your country, Ghana, and perhaps the African continent as a whole are still not developed. The writer i ...
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Yaw, your so-called wisdom and the likes of you in your country and perhaps the African continent are part of the reasons your country, Ghana, and perhaps the African continent as a whole are still not developed. The writer is neither confronting Biblical Truth nor the existence of the Supreme Being. He is sharing a research on what he and the likes of him see as lies paraphrased and wrapped among Truths for "Bible believers". You know that the Bible has undergone several interpretations? An ancient prophet once saw an object moving but nothing was holding it. When people like you and your ancestors are/were waiting for that object to come to you [maybe miraculously from the heavens] so that you can ride in, other race(s) researched and built it. It is airplane, or aeroplane. Those races have also invented so many things and are still inventing. Your race continues to babble and quote like parrots without results. Tell us: WHO DO YOU THINK GOD IS MORE PROUD OF? THE RACE(S) THAT IS/ARE USING THEIR TALENTS TO CREATE (AS GOD HIMSELF IS CREATIVE) OR THOSE WHO ARE SIMPLY BUSY SHOUTING HALLELUJAH, HALLELUJAH? Tell the results of your so called Godly wisdom if you and your country still depend on other countries for your survival.
Nyansapo 12 years ago

THERE ARE OVER 8.7 MILLION SPECIES OF ANIMALS ON EARTH. HOW DID NOAH TAKE SAY 3 MILLION SPECIES ONTO THE ARK?

HOW WAS HE ABLE TO COLLECT ALL OF THEM? HOW DID HE TRANSPORT THEM FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND PLACES?

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THERE ARE OVER 8.7 MILLION SPECIES OF ANIMALS ON EARTH. HOW DID NOAH TAKE SAY 3 MILLION SPECIES ONTO THE ARK?

HOW WAS HE ABLE TO COLLECT ALL OF THEM? HOW DID HE TRANSPORT THEM FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES AND PLACES?

HOW DID HE FEED ALL OF THEM?

HOW LARGE WAS HIS ARK TO CONTAIN ALL THESE SPECIES?

WAS THE ARK CLIMATE CONTROLLED SO THAT POLLAR BEARS COULD BE ALRIGHT?

How can someone put in lions den survive the ordeal, and come out unharmed(Book of Daniel)", or "How can the 3 Hebrews survive the flame, and come out unharmed

ANOTHER MYTH. EVEN THE JEWS DONT BELIEVE THIS. DANIEL IN THE LIONS DEN IS JUST A MYTH. DO U KNOW ANYBODY WHO CAN DO THAT TODAY. THE GREEKS ALSO HAVE VERY FANTASTICAL STORIES LIKE JONAH'S AND THE THREE BOYS IN THE FURNACE, BUT TODAY IT IS CALLED A MYTH.

ONLY ILLITERATE SCOCIETIES IN AFRICA ND THE THIRD WORLD BELIEVE THESE MYTHS AS TRUE STORIES. EUROPEANS, JAPANESE AND OTHER EDUCATED SOCIETIIES KNOW THESE STORIES ARE NOT REAL. AT BEST, THEY ARE ALLEGORICAL.

THE FLOD OF NOAH IS A MYTH. IT IS 'TOLI'.
Osei 12 years ago

I couldn't have made it better.

I couldn't have made it better.
Real Black Man 12 years ago

I agree with you. It is boring and tiring reading long articles.

I agree with you. It is boring and tiring reading long articles.
joe 12 years ago

What will u gain from this,Nobel award?Do u know when u will die nd where u will go.Repent nd give ur life to jesus nd he will help u in every thing u can think abt.Jesus said unless u r born again you cant see or enter the k ...
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What will u gain from this,Nobel award?Do u know when u will die nd where u will go.Repent nd give ur life to jesus nd he will help u in every thing u can think abt.Jesus said unless u r born again you cant see or enter the kingdom of God.
Open ended 12 years ago

Sir, permit me to humbly say that this article is far beyond many peoples comprehension including my very yours obediently. I need not read the first two parts to understand that you find biblical accounts twisted or even fak ...
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Sir, permit me to humbly say that this article is far beyond many peoples comprehension including my very yours obediently. I need not read the first two parts to understand that you find biblical accounts twisted or even fake. You have every right to feel however you feel. But what is your own stand? What is your belief? What are you promoting? Go straight to that. And don't forget, that story is also in the holy Quran. So why is it only, the one in the bible you are exposing?
C.Y. ANDY-K 12 years ago

My friend, I have waited over ten years to revive this subject again. Back in the 90s, it was beyond the "comprehension" of the hundreds of graduates, MAs, MsCs, PhDs, etc. on Okyeame. I was stunned! I knew that we Africans a ...
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My friend, I have waited over ten years to revive this subject again. Back in the 90s, it was beyond the "comprehension" of the hundreds of graduates, MAs, MsCs, PhDs, etc. on Okyeame. I was stunned! I knew that we Africans are said to be ignorant but I wasn't expecting that depth of ignorance amongst the cream of the educated Ghanaian elite in the Diaspora. Under those circumstances, it wasn't possible to have any meaningful discourse with such an uneducated lot.

This time around, I shall force it down the throat of everybody.

I think I am clear enough about my intentions: expose the biblical myths, which of course, got in the Qu'ran too. The ultimate aim is to start the De-magification and Demystifying processes which heralded the Enlightenment in Europe centuries ago.

Just remember, Ken Kuranchie came out of prison to pronounce that Ghanaians were not civilised. There is something called the "civilising process" I read about. I am just sharing!
Andy-K
Kaakeeku 12 years ago

Nobody show any child about God as the saying goes in Ghana.You just quote references from people who might be Atheist or who have Anxiety about God and use it to prove what has stood the test of time. Whetehr you like it or ...
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Nobody show any child about God as the saying goes in Ghana.You just quote references from people who might be Atheist or who have Anxiety about God and use it to prove what has stood the test of time. Whetehr you like it or YES you cannot shove anything in anyone;s throat. Have you stopped to think of why Technologically advnaced nations have to run away from people whose food is only meat and unleaven bread who do not have any technology? Emancipate yourself from mental slavery.
Open ended 12 years ago

Pls can you pls read the comment titled "to the point sir" posted under the comment of Noah. And reply? Thanks

Pls can you pls read the comment titled "to the point sir" posted under the comment of Noah. And reply? Thanks
Open ended 12 years ago

Pls can you pls read the comment titled "to the point sir" posted under the comment of Joe.And reply? Thanks

Pls can you pls read the comment titled "to the point sir" posted under the comment of Joe.And reply? Thanks
Asiwome 12 years ago

The fact remains that there is a powerful creator who is capable of destroying creation and ensuring the survival of creation. Put your trust in God.

The fact remains that there is a powerful creator who is capable of destroying creation and ensuring the survival of creation. Put your trust in God.
Modin Sane 12 years ago

IF YOU CLAIM THE POWERFUL GOD HAS INSPIRED U TO WRITE A BOOK, THAT BOOK MUST BE TRUTHFUL. OTHERWISE, WHAT ELSE IN THE BOOK IS FABRICATION?

THE WHITE SAY MY ONYANKOPON IS NOT THE WAY AND THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. THEYPRESENT ...
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IF YOU CLAIM THE POWERFUL GOD HAS INSPIRED U TO WRITE A BOOK, THAT BOOK MUST BE TRUTHFUL. OTHERWISE, WHAT ELSE IN THE BOOK IS FABRICATION?

THE WHITE SAY MY ONYANKOPON IS NOT THE WAY AND THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. THEYPRESENT ME A BOOK THAT THEY CANNOT DEFEND, A BOOK MADE UP OF FABRICATIONS.

WHOSE GOD IS THE TRUE ONE? WHICH RELIGION IS THE TRUTH, HINDUISN, BUDDHHISM, SIKHISM, ?
CKA 12 years ago

Modin sane,

The point rather, going by your concern, is that Noah did not write the account of Noah. And Noah is a historical account by someone who was not there. It is therefore complete hearsay: so and so said so and s ...
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Modin sane,

The point rather, going by your concern, is that Noah did not write the account of Noah. And Noah is a historical account by someone who was not there. It is therefore complete hearsay: so and so said so and so.

None can prove it. None of us was there.

Even Jesus did not write an account of himself. It is also Hearsay. So in the end it is all about "Faith" since experience and perception cannot themselves prove anything because there are things we do not experience and things exist that we do not perceive.

But I just admire how some people spend time trying to prove things that are a matter of faith and on first perusal are not worth proving simply because they are complete hearsay anyway.

You ask: "WHOSE GOD IS THE TRUE ONE? WHICH RELIGION IS THE TRUTH, HINDUISN, BUDDHHISM, SIKHISM?"

God is the Black Man:

Daniel 7:9
I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
Daniel 7:8-10 (in Context) Daniel 7 (Whole Chapter)

True religion?
The Religion of the Original Man is the true religion.

Thanks
juliet hadjah 12 years ago

faith is what we see under the shining of the word of God.Gods word gives faith,faith gives substance to the reality of the things of God.

faith is what we see under the shining of the word of God.Gods word gives faith,faith gives substance to the reality of the things of God.
CKA 12 years ago

Juliet, faith is certainly what we see under the light of the word of God. But note that the great Word of God is Work of God - His Creation. I mean the Universe. Within it are multi-galaxies many billions of light years awa ...
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Juliet, faith is certainly what we see under the light of the word of God. But note that the great Word of God is Work of God - His Creation. I mean the Universe. Within it are multi-galaxies many billions of light years away from us with no edge(limit). The Word of God is the Creation of God. It speaks to us with laws of categorial conversion some of which humanity shall never understand.

Thanks
CKA 12 years ago

Some people really have time! I admire them; really. All the time for such a research just to prove whether there was or was not a flood! Wow!!!

Some people really have time! I admire them; really. All the time for such a research just to prove whether there was or was not a flood! Wow!!!
What Is Your Point? 12 years ago

The arc of Noah Story is false. The earth and all the other plannets are objects hanging in an open space n u ll most probably believe that. You and I were sperms like liquids but now we have bones, hair, blood n ev thg. Try ...
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The arc of Noah Story is false. The earth and all the other plannets are objects hanging in an open space n u ll most probably believe that. You and I were sperms like liquids but now we have bones, hair, blood n ev thg. Try n understand how the flower makes seeds, buds and falls. Or how the termite gathers enough sand to make their tall moulds. Or how the see carries ships and storms over big rocks and stops at common sand before you try understanding the bibble.
Serebour 12 years ago

Thank goodness that Gravity is a law....

Think people think...

Thank goodness that Gravity is a law....

Think people think...
Yaw 12 years ago

Yes gravity is law but where did gravity come from?

Yes gravity is law but where did gravity come from?
Campus Ministry Report 12 years ago

"How did all the animals fit on Noah's Ark? - Creation"

"How did all the animals fit on Noah's Ark? - Creation"
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

"How did all the animals fit on Noah's Ark? - Creation"

I GGOOGLED THIS . IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. LOGISTICALLY AND MATHEMATICALLY THERE IS NO WAY NOAH AND HIS FAMILY COULD HAVE FITTED MILLIONS OF ANIMALS SPECIES INT ...
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"How did all the animals fit on Noah's Ark? - Creation"

I GGOOGLED THIS . IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE. LOGISTICALLY AND MATHEMATICALLY THERE IS NO WAY NOAH AND HIS FAMILY COULD HAVE FITTED MILLIONS OF ANIMALS SPECIES INT TO THE ARK.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY. THIS STORY IS NOTHING BUT MYTHOLOGY. THIS IS NOT DIFFERENT FROM THE GREEKS SAYING A GIANT (ATLAS) CARRIED THE SKIES ON HIS SHOULDERS.

ONLY THE FAITHFUL WOULD BELIEVE THAT A GIANT CARRIED THE SKIES ON HIS SHOULDERS. SORRY! I AM NOT ONE OF THE FAITHFUL. THIS IS THE 21ST CENTURY.
Campus Ministry Report 12 years ago

It is not everyone who can understand, just as it is not everyone who believes!

Remember, in him Christ Jesus is hidden ALL the treasures of knowledge and wisdom. God has laid in the heart of man a desire to know his works ...
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It is not everyone who can understand, just as it is not everyone who believes!

Remember, in him Christ Jesus is hidden ALL the treasures of knowledge and wisdom. God has laid in the heart of man a desire to know his works, but man would not come to the full understanding of all the works of God.

Read, carefully, the contents of the site.

Our testimony hinges on what is written, and what Christ himself has come to bear witness to.

God chooses the foolish things of the world to shame the worldly wise.
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

Read, carefully, the contents of the site.

THE SITE MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. NOAH AND HIS FAMILY COULD NOT HAVE TRAVELLED THE ENTIRE WORLD COLLECTING ANIMAL SPECIES. SOME ANIMALS ARE JUST NATIVE TO CERTAIN GEOGRAPHICAL L ...
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Read, carefully, the contents of the site.

THE SITE MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. NOAH AND HIS FAMILY COULD NOT HAVE TRAVELLED THE ENTIRE WORLD COLLECTING ANIMAL SPECIES. SOME ANIMALS ARE JUST NATIVE TO CERTAIN GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS, LIKE KANGAROOS TO AUSTRALIA. THIS IS JUST A KWAKU ANASE STORY.

Our testimony hinges on what is written, and what Christ himself has come to bear witness to.

IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. IF IT HAD COME FROM A YORUBA SOURCE, IT WONT MAKE SENSE AND IT DOES NOT MAKE SENSE COMING FROM THE HEBREW SOURCE.

God chooses the foolish things of the world to shame the worldly wise

AHA ! I EXPECTED THIS. WHEN IT CLEARLY AND OBVIOUSLY MAKES NO SENSE AND YOU KNOW IT, THIS IS THE SAD DEFENCE YOU RELY ON. COMING FROM TIGARI, IT MAKES NO SENSE BUT COMING FROM THE HEBREW SOURCE, IT DOES NOT HAVE TO MAKE SENSE, BECAUSE GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS. HOW CONVENIENT ! HOW HYPOCRITICAL !

WHY WOULD YOUR HEBREW GOD KILL INNOCENT ANIMALS ANYWAY? THE ANIMALS ARE KILLED BECAUSE HUMANS SINNED? DOES THIS MAKE SENSE TO YOU? HUMANS SIN AND ANIMALS ARE KILLED? WHAT !!!!

WHAT ABOUT ALL THE INNOCENT BABIES AND CHILDREN KILLED? IS THIS HEBREW GOD A LOVING AND FAIR GOD?

HMMM! SO NOAH AND HIS HEBREW FAMILY WERE THE ONLY GOOD PEOPLE ON EARTH?

A GOD GOT ANGRY BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE SINNING AND DECIDES TO KILL INNOCENT ANIMALS AND DEFENCELESS CHILLDREN AND BABIES,

ONYANKOPON, THE GOD OF AFRICA WOULD NEVER DO SUCH A THING. HE IS KIND, JUST AND CAMPASSIONATE. I DONT KNOW ABOUT THIS HEBREW GOD THAT WAS FORCED DOWN THE THROATS OF AFRICAN PEOPLE BY WHITE PEOPLE.
mugu1 12 years ago

Y-chromosomal Adam

anything concern about the bible the quoran the torah is but Vatican-Roman invention from ancient test which is not made for BELIEVE purpose but Vatican-Roman power put all our nose in their created GOD ...
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Y-chromosomal Adam

anything concern about the bible the quoran the torah is but Vatican-Roman invention from ancient test which is not made for BELIEVE purpose but Vatican-Roman power put all our nose in their created GOD believing illusion.
Vatican-Roman is the lady with wine sitting on the beast with 7 head whom had made the whole nation drank from her cup,this is how our ancestors has put the story down to enable us wake from our deep sleep.

another twisted story:
Adam and The Garden of Eden===========

adam and eve are scientific LANGUAGE which use to determine a particular time frame of our existence.adam & eve do not live at the same time.
check it yourself:

Y chromosome Adam & Mitochondrial Eve.

Mitochondrial Eve is the woman from whom all living humans are descended matrilineally, who lived about 140,000 to 200,000 years ago in Africa. The estimate is based on inherited mtDNA though mothers. Theoretically, it is not necessary to believe that Y-chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve should have lived at the same time.[9][10] However, latest findings in 2013 give the possibility that the two individuals could have been contemporaneous

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Y chromosome phylogenetic tree with major branches represented by Y-DNA haplogroups
In human genetics, Y-chromosomal Adam (Y-MRCA) is a hypothetical name given to the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) from whom all currently living people are descended patrilineally (tracing back only along the paternal or male lines of their family tree). However, the title is not permanently fixed on a single individual (see below).

Y-chromosomal Adam is named after the biblical Adam, but the bearer of the chromosome was not the only human male alive during his time.[1] His other male contemporaries could also have descendants alive today, but not, by definition, solely through patrilineal descent.

The age for the Y-MRCA has been variously estimated as 188,000,[2] 270,000,[3] 306,000,[4] and 142,000[5] A paper published in March 2013 reported an older estimate of 338,000 years.[6] Then two simultaneous reports in August 2013 provide younger estimates, one suggested 180,000 to 200,000 years,[7] and another, based on the genome sequence of nine different populations, indicated the age between 120,000 and 156,000 years.[8]

Analogous to Y-chromosomal Adam, Mitochondrial Eve is the woman from whom all living humans are descended matrilineally, who lived about 140,000 to 200,000 years ago in Africa. The estimate is based on inherited mtDNA though mothers. Theoretically, it is not necessary to believe that Y-chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve should have lived at the same time.[9][10] However, latest findings in 2013 give the possibility that the two individuals could have been contemporaneous
Yaw 12 years ago

you start your argument with a ridiculous claim. The torah existed way before roman influence in the middle east and the books of the bible were written before christianity became the official religion of the roman empire in ...
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you start your argument with a ridiculous claim. The torah existed way before roman influence in the middle east and the books of the bible were written before christianity became the official religion of the roman empire in the reign of Constantine. secular historians such as Flavius Josephus, Pliny the younger, Tacitus, celsus, Seutonius and plegan all had an account of Jesus (and those weren't flattering accounts)way before the existence of such a thing as the Vatican. Ignorance truly must be bliss.

And who even cites wikipedia?? did you not know that most articles could be edited by almost anyone with fingers?
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

LOGISTICALLY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR NOAH TO COLLECT AND FIT ALL THESE ANIMAL SPECIES, FROM ALL OVER THE EARTH, INTO AN ARK. THIS IS A MYTH LIKE THE GILGAMESH EPIC, FROM WHICH IT IS TAKEN.

DAINEL IN A LION'S DEN, THREE JESIH ...
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LOGISTICALLY IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR NOAH TO COLLECT AND FIT ALL THESE ANIMAL SPECIES, FROM ALL OVER THE EARTH, INTO AN ARK. THIS IS A MYTH LIKE THE GILGAMESH EPIC, FROM WHICH IT IS TAKEN.

DAINEL IN A LION'S DEN, THREE JESIH IN A FURNACE, JONAH IN THE BELLY OF A WHALE ETC IT IS ALL MYTHOLOGY.

EVEN THE JEWS DONT TAKE THOSE STORIES LITERALLY TODAY. ONLY AFRICANS BELEIEVE THESE STORIES.

WHICH GOD WOULD KILL INNOCENT BABIES, OLD PEOPLE ETC SIMPLY BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE SINNED? EVERY NATION IN THIS WORLD SINNED, EXCEPT FOR NOAH AND HIS FAMILY? WHAT A COCK AND BULL STORY !
Kaakeeku 12 years ago

Have you researched into modern day Jews? Most of them are Western and Eastern Europeans. The original Jews are very few in Israel.It is alright for you to punish or hit your child if he or she misbahaves. You suffer from Go ...
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Have you researched into modern day Jews? Most of them are Western and Eastern Europeans. The original Jews are very few in Israel.It is alright for you to punish or hit your child if he or she misbahaves. You suffer from God Anxiety. He is there whether you like it or YES.
Nana Manu, USA 12 years ago

.It is alright for you to punish or hit your child if he or she misbahaves.

YES , I PUNISH MY CHILD WHEN HE MISBEHAVES, BUT I DONT KILL HIM AND I DONT KILL OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE AS WELL. WHAT GOD WILL DO THAT? SOME PEOPLE ...
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.It is alright for you to punish or hit your child if he or she misbahaves.

YES , I PUNISH MY CHILD WHEN HE MISBEHAVES, BUT I DONT KILL HIM AND I DONT KILL OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE AS WELL. WHAT GOD WILL DO THAT? SOME PEOPLE SINNED SO A GOD DECIDE TO KILL EVERYBODY? HE KILLS PEOPLE ALL OVER THE EARTH? MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER !

HE KILLS THE INNOCENT CHILDREN, MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE? HE EVEN KILLS THE INNOCENT ANIMALS? WHAT KIND OF GOD IS YAHWEH, THE HEBREW GOD?

IF THE GOD OF TIGARI HAD DONE THIS, WHITE PEOPLE WOULD CRITICIZE HIM. THEY WILL CALL HIM A FALSE GOD. THEY WILL CALL HIM VENGEFUL AND WICKED.

You suffer from God Anxiety. He is there whether you like it or
John Frafra 12 years ago

People from Ghana how did them reach Noah? By foot, sea or by air?

People from Ghana how did them reach Noah? By foot, sea or by air?
mugu1 12 years ago

what nonesense,torah was created in the 800 hundreds by moses mormon.
also Flavius Josephus in the one hundreds was fallacious myth just like other so call historians !!!.the letter J did not exist on the planet untill 1612s ...
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what nonesense,torah was created in the 800 hundreds by moses mormon.
also Flavius Josephus in the one hundreds was fallacious myth just like other so call historians !!!.the letter J did not exist on the planet untill 1612s or 1630s which means the letter J was created in the 1600 hundreds so here there's no way people using names like jesus,jupiter ect.at a time or places when the letter itself none existing,
there many ancient test all over the planet which are as far older as many millions of years,the evil roman vatican have 50 kilometers sq undergroung libary many ancient records maintained up to date hiding in there,you know now that your so call Holy Roman was build on 7 hill cemetary .im boring with this nonesense i will spend my time on somethings else.keep believing foolishes
Yaw 12 years ago

flavius Josephus was also known as Yosef ben Matityahu and that is hebrew with no J
Jesus was called Yeshua or Yehoshua in hebrew and thats also without J.
And there are no texts on earth dated to millions of years. in fac ...
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flavius Josephus was also known as Yosef ben Matityahu and that is hebrew with no J
Jesus was called Yeshua or Yehoshua in hebrew and thats also without J.
And there are no texts on earth dated to millions of years. in fact the earliest original texts do not go past 3000 bc. go to the library. its worth while
NII 12 years ago

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VICKY LEE BENTON 12 years ago

THE ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANSTINE AND THE GREEK ELITE CALLED PLUTO CAME UP WITH AN IDEA TO BRAINWASHED THEIR PEOPLE IN OTHER TO EXERSIZE POWER THEM DURING THE SO CALLED " THE DARK DAYS ". AND BOUY DID THEY SUCCEEDED !
THE WHO ...
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THE ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANSTINE AND THE GREEK ELITE CALLED PLUTO CAME UP WITH AN IDEA TO BRAINWASHED THEIR PEOPLE IN OTHER TO EXERSIZE POWER THEM DURING THE SO CALLED " THE DARK DAYS ". AND BOUY DID THEY SUCCEEDED !
THE WHOLE BIBLE IS A MYTH. FOR INSTANCE, THE GENEOLOGY OF ADAM AND EVE. IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. WHAT ABOUT US, THE ASIANS, THE SOUTH AMERICANS , DO REALLY HAVE A TRAIT FROM ADAM & EVE, REALLY?
Panin 12 years ago

Just like your fake hair is a myth and your birth date is a myth and the records at the college you attended is a myth. Oh by the way you were never born you were found in the bush and raised by baboons. Show me proof that Yo ...
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Just like your fake hair is a myth and your birth date is a myth and the records at the college you attended is a myth. Oh by the way you were never born you were found in the bush and raised by baboons. Show me proof that You were born to Mr and Mrs Benton. Are the records of your birth all made up just to decieve others...??
lentonwayne 12 years ago

Never mind Noah and the flood, the whole bible is a myth.

Never mind Noah and the flood, the whole bible is a myth.
Search for Truth 12 years ago

The Noahs ark story is an allegory and should be interpreted as such.The story of the Floods features in all the worlds major religions and explains the time(Atlantis?) when most parts of the then world was destroyed by water ...
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The Noahs ark story is an allegory and should be interpreted as such.The story of the Floods features in all the worlds major religions and explains the time(Atlantis?) when most parts of the then world was destroyed by water.
spiritual not religious 12 years ago

It is the dissolution and also the grand dissolution which happens everytime we complete the 8,400,000 year cycles. Curently we are in the Iron age started (3102BC) we have spent 5115 years out of the 432,000 of the Iron age. ...
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It is the dissolution and also the grand dissolution which happens everytime we complete the 8,400,000 year cycles. Curently we are in the Iron age started (3102BC) we have spent 5115 years out of the 432,000 of the Iron age. we have 427,000 approx before another flood. This can be found in the Light & Sound teachings. There is evidence in the Bible that Jesus taught this same system which all Masters and Christs have taught for ages but the Church has taken out all these books from the bible and christians believe they are reading the word of God. Well the WOrd in john 1.1 created everything that exists. it is not a book in time and space , it is a dynamic power which create everything that lives animate & inanimate. The Bible was written in the Bronze age (lasted 874,000 years and humans lived a 1,000 years approx before death. Now we live a 100 year approx. But christians do not realise that the silver age (we live 10,000 years) and the golden age (we live 100,000) preceded the Bronze age and they think they know the truth. More so, we have had 1000s of these ages, in fact 1000 of these ages makes a day of brahm or Satan. Bobe quote "A thousane years is one day of the Lord" The lord here is not the supreme being. - God who created the physical, Astral & mental worlds - this God is the God of Religions and also is Satan which the average christian doe not know. The supreme being is higher and does not come down to the lower worlds. it is its essence - which the saints call the Light (matt 6:22) and the Sound (talked about in john 17) that he that hearest the Sound is born of the spirit. there are 5 major sounds haerd within the God planes of the human body. This corresponds to the 5 major heavens, the 1st two heavene run by Satan. The God of the lower world is Satan , he told Jesus this during the tempatation that he should bow that and he will give him all the lower world because it has been given unto him. but jesus know that all soul including me and you all come from the 5th level of heaven. we are higher than these so called God but this God control you through your 3 minds which when on a true spiritual path is meant to purify to awake the Soul , which is your highest God self that, which has power over the mind. This is the Soul body Those men & women who are been able to do this are called Masters or Christs. Jesus has also attained this level yet christians are so deluded they think he is the only one. There have been 1000s of christs before Jesus. This is all in the spiritual scriptures but christians are walking around saying everyone is going to hell but them. Well I can tell you they are not going to the higest heaven because they are worshipping a lower power. jesus cannot save any of them even though they believe this. They never met him so jesus himself said "As long as I am in the world , I am the light of the world" that was when he was here, today he is no longer here. there are at least 5 christs living today. those who are ready to ascend into the God worlds know about them. No pastors & so called prophets even know about how the enter the kingdom within. If they did , they cannot hold back, they would preach it.The experience when you experience it is profound and is life changing, you will not be able to hold back. But the focus is on materialism which is how the negative power deludes all men including christians. I could go on for eternity but i rest my case. You wann know about this, Ask the divine within fervently and be open reading everything, when sufficient preparation to spiritualise your viewpoint has been attained ,you will be led to one of the Living sons of God to pilot you into the Divine's bosom from whence you came aeons ago.
No time for Adam & Eve, Who did Cain marry, allegory with a deep spiritual meaning. Adam (soul), Even (universal mind), Cain higher mind (thought voilition, reason & seeking God), Aben (lower mind - involved in excessive sex, materialism, emotionalism eg anger, vanity etc). The higher mind will have to klill the lower mind before you can start making preparation for the journey into your God self. I asked the Divine at 14 years to teach me these things and if i can know these including the current living christs around today, you can as well, Thank you
Panin 12 years ago

You spend a lot of time writing rubbish to discredit the Bible. It is the likes of you who still believe in useless Mayan Calenders.

You read the works of other crazy writers and reference them as authorities we must bow t ...
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You spend a lot of time writing rubbish to discredit the Bible. It is the likes of you who still believe in useless Mayan Calenders.

You read the works of other crazy writers and reference them as authorities we must bow to. Have you ever wondered how you are so unique in design? You don't have 5 eye balls spread around your cranium. You have the most complex network of veins and nerves and I take it the unique design is the results of the useless BIG BANG you believe in.
SPIRITUALITY IS NOT FOR FOOLS.

Pitiful! pitiful!
OBUOM 12 years ago

FOOLISH ARTICLE

FOOLISH ARTICLE
Jimmy Stewart 12 years ago

It's not a myth it's truth and it happened no matter how much you try to deny it. Even though Noah's Ark has yet to be found doesn't mean it didn't happen. The Bible is clear and specific and The Creator of everything can do ...
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It's not a myth it's truth and it happened no matter how much you try to deny it. Even though Noah's Ark has yet to be found doesn't mean it didn't happen. The Bible is clear and specific and The Creator of everything can do what He wants no matter what science says...because He created science.
kofi 12 years ago

I thought the writer was going to debunk the flood, and maybe Noah. He did neither of those. As a matter of fact, he even agrees that the bible puts it mountains of Ararat which could mean the Ararat range or the mountains of ...
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I thought the writer was going to debunk the flood, and maybe Noah. He did neither of those. As a matter of fact, he even agrees that the bible puts it mountains of Ararat which could mean the Ararat range or the mountains of the said kingdom. so why the theme is exposing the biblical myth when nothing is exposed. intellectual dishonesty.
GEORGE ESHUN, USA 12 years ago

booklong minus spirituality is equal to stupididy

booklong minus spirituality is equal to stupididy
Kojo Oheh 12 years ago

Google Luciferian Liberation Front and get to know other side of the Bible.

Google Luciferian Liberation Front and get to know other side of the Bible.
Ngariba 12 years ago

repent or else your days will be worsen than the days of jezebel. your liars will consume your master. Jesus loves you. remember the devil poses himself sometimes as angel of light. we are not moved because Yahweh is with us.

repent or else your days will be worsen than the days of jezebel. your liars will consume your master. Jesus loves you. remember the devil poses himself sometimes as angel of light. we are not moved because Yahweh is with us.
KING 12 years ago

Richard,
You have kick-started an important topic that is part of numerous subjects. In my opinion, they need to be discussed on a larger platform. Blacks, or Africans' illusion of the truth is part of the reasons the contin ...
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Richard,
You have kick-started an important topic that is part of numerous subjects. In my opinion, they need to be discussed on a larger platform. Blacks, or Africans' illusion of the truth is part of the reasons the continent and its people are still developing/progressing at a snail pace.

King@african-center.com

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